From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Clojure mode Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:35:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87a5uw9ivs.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttt42gna.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmy080kn.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8djcydl.fsf@gnu.org> <87350ndquw.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83350ncbns.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyzrjbd8.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83zg2vav46.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87zg2hsyrd.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87h6ontwfv.fsf@posteo.net> <4874df51-9652-f9fd-0576-9dd6a4cba31a@gutov.dev> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12174"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: danny@dfreeman.email, emacs-devel@gnu.org, manuel.uberti@inventati.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 27 03:35:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qa4gc-0002xB-Uk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2023 03:35:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qa4gI-0001Hx-PT; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qa4gH-0001Hb-9t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:35:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qa4gG-0002ri-UG; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:35:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=+oEdR+P+nLwdQniiGv4HLaWQID++yOGbNw9kesqwFbk=; b=Zg3eD7/U4bO+ 3PE1QCTFRQ39krQDMv9hri2sVTMbL6Nv00ZySm2MnwwGJUh43hdK9hEz9YWn9cy20CFygs9APtS6T fdjW5tLsR89IEZ1IRvqeyZIxd1pXyU8vTulPj1MxmIbzWklYo4BVayVmgsgRovI2TfvbS/WPlmNI/ O+njL8tY/RYnEA+irnd7lsiKNaT1xgGQ3UfxIBVSw6tGqsYP7F7Ro37C91h+6jZv1C7R+d+Mjxyu/ gGbHq+FExgqI1wS2NguZh2CC/qLBICMzI9v/4sFbKFtsTX5TfwMDcFDpSYeDsUZ32i73IFSArEZ2W AIW01HOanEGp253soNxU4A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qa4gG-0001ho-Iq; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:35:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4874df51-9652-f9fd-0576-9dd6a4cba31a@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 26 Aug 2023 17:05:34 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309294 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > What those people think should not be a crucial issue, because writing > > a major mode to handle a language is not a big job. We have dozens of > > them in Emacs. Lots of us here would be able to replace it. > I would really not recommend increasing user confusion around which is > the recommended major mode, and which one is not. That argument is too vague to support any particular conclusion. If we install a command called clojure-mode in the core Emacs, that will in a sense be the preferred one. If you type M-x clojure-mode in Emacs, that is the one you'll get. We could avoid confusion with the NonGNU ELPA package by renaming that one. Asking to load it using its new name would make it clear that that's the package you want. > That affects many third-party packages, as well as configuration > snippets floating around the web. Sorry, I don't follow you. Would you please spell out what you mean? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)