From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: contributing to Emacs Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:24:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83v8fnslfz.fsf@gnu.org> <8423a35750d8d8e0437c7708f6b4d0bbdfdb7fe0.camel@yandex.ru> <6981052a75913ea435ae2adaccdaa1c66252a6df.camel@yandex.ru> <6a22f3608f37e238ffbd20d6dead86d3aa76d01e.camel@yandex.ru> <96766e99bf2618cc4290498933c6e32bc2a0f98a.camel@yandex.ru> <83o7ldpcs8.fsf@gnu.org> <3c64fe534fee45ff75c9e2c3cece8e2ee146091e.camel@yandex.ru> <87bkhdnl94.fsf@posteo.net> <183ae6c17b4d07701e76003dc72c25d8d2705611.camel@yandex.ru> <87pm5t7yu4.fsf@yahoo.com> <339b006829e123a3f6eeaffbd66f557ea837fdcd.camel@yandex.ru> <87y1kgdax7.fsf@web.de> <83o7lc91kh.fsf@gnu.org> <87leggd2cu.fsf@web.de> <83ilbk8u1k.fsf@gnu.org> <448f75fb368e4ae61dd8bd7899047602a806228a.camel@yandex.ru> <83h6r48a02.fsf@gnu.org> <83mt0v70d3.fsf@gnu.org> <03bef840fc28d46a2ffbf9c94c18a3cbf96de08f.camel@yandex.ru> <83cz1q75do.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38697"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, dsmasterson@gmail.com, arne_bab@web.de, luangruo@yahoo.com, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Konstantin Kharlamov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 20 18:24:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qBe9i-0009kN-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:24:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBe9K-0004iT-Qn; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:24:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBe9J-0004i4-Qo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBe9J-0005xc-C8; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:24:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=fN6Z/w2eQ9dgHTOdCmPp2IRmkZEDvp1Zga3ltdNoJV4=; b=qNaUZ3KLDyVc 6Vy8CVnmxKsEOGe5xdBKBNp8BYk8Rq28xDBHAa2ACbbSURDmrnEiNeASIF2FGSrrAcTWIDSHqIQB/ ZrJkRNzeBX9Qfo/yyj0BRAoSnuCHVcEro7mG7Cf4S1fDYCDvN0aMJGwJDFUcKM7p3JnKtWbEG0NCK buVLXrkN32dIhn6/7Fl9+ngp24e6Ovxu8CTxwYesq/rVxjrzA5wNIV7eA6JEt/THsQPbL+CrR+q33 HCzktrqHLeplLHDQKjp2Gr0ms6lGbhALd2PCCTLuXflul8OVDsydvhpVw191jfCobDZ+WfoTDnjUI 9MCEF7os0Ev2/Rj5lxUlsg==; Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBe9J-0005Kz-45; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 12:24:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Konstantin Kharlamov on Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:45:03 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307092 Archived-At: > In any case, that section hardly has any bearing on the main issue at > hand: how to make it easier for people to contribute.  I explained > that as well. That is because the large issue consists of many small ones! The only single "big move" that is theoretically possible is just move Emacs to a Gitlab instance, which will remove necessity to care of any docs because finding a developer who doesn't know how git-forges work is unlikely. But I *do not* suggest doing that because I know many long-timers would not want that. So instead I am trying to bite at different pieces that could be improved without affecting existing workflow. This docs discussion is just one small piece. I'm sorry, but this cannot be taken seriously. "remove necessity to care of any docs"? This is now how good software development works, and such naive attiude for silver bullets is not only counter productive.