From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Builder, a build system integration for Emacs Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 17:16:27 -0400 Message-ID: References: <95980ffc-86e7-ad54-4a20-539d8c6ea5d0@mailo.com> <3f68f4bc-d426-0bcc-1329-674c12b29386@mailo.com> <76e12f7c-335f-476b-ffb3-fd8e8e4ab5d0@mailo.com> <87pm6rx4ea.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wn0ytefw.fsf@gmail.com> <83h6s0n95y.fsf@gnu.org> <83edn4myz4.fsf@gnu.org> <83a5xsmuc0.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16364"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 26 23:17:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q2eoH-0003sp-0u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 26 May 2023 23:17:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q2enY-0004To-R1; Fri, 26 May 2023 17:16:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q2enT-0004QA-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2023 17:16:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q2enT-0005o5-GH; Fri, 26 May 2023 17:16:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=s+FA7xr25mzrGRXJb0Dn5/VBG4sM48SmMmckx+udDek=; b=TLZF5e69Ucpv r5X3mvS7+lX/OSOmI5Eh433Azk5MP6lgmIqBsg2bDts8hHIVHdRqNx1en/6j0lSPj8gL2mQM7+D63 ndoAO+jwuDiC7WMgEeAdofmB+Ixi+YU+DBEJjnN7TUO6AxO0F5bikuDvdH0DTkYd0EIakw89qxfIr fJerogifoOMB71++NT1B2kU0AVykewsR7Kh079E9ur+c1sCo92UtMXa0bIvEG6vVzb5k6KlPpiFoG 07AEmRANyIqlH1kh9DqC5OWl95dvPZg0hCw8T7mENXscmUHAC7vU0i2cZlntqdXk4QvungEq+tYFy qp8AkUp358eqEyD2XdX1Pg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q2enT-0007co-3D; Fri, 26 May 2023 17:16:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Thu, 25 May 2023 14:36:40 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306355 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Then I guess I don't understand what these problems are, and what kind of > solution you are after. Let's take a concrete example of a popular Rust > program: ripgrep. All you need to build it is: > git clone https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep > cargo build --release > or (even simpler): > cargo install ripgrep > That (relatively simple) program depends on no less than 37 Rust > libraries, and has two optional build options, "pcre2" and "simd-accel". > If you activate these two options the program depends on 45 libraries. > What would you want do do with those 45 libraries? What do you mean in > this concrete case by "interactive selection of dependencies based on > their features and requirements"? Where does cargo get the list of libraries to consider using? Does it have a default list that it normally considers? If so, where is that specified? Are all the libraries in that default list free/libre? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)