From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Grammar checking Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 23:28:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sfdnyuxc.fsf@posteo.de> <83sfdl2z26.fsf@gnu.org> <58158ae49808189da7b2@heytings.org> <83mt3t2xz1.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzyxxqir.fsf@gmail.com> <58158ae4986fa602fe47@heytings.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24959"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lynn Winebarger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 08 05:29:50 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pkzGv-0006MQ-QQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Apr 2023 05:29:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkzG9-0007DE-AE; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 23:29:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkzG7-0007Cm-Gp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 23:28:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkzG7-0004e3-7y; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 23:28:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=4OUqWXNxcQRW+4zDWcMYJyoA9VdGdE281C6k83BaWVo=; b=OoZoVS2HV/yv SjAInJYCiRC62AYTAzWunU5elA9+RUqOewWCOAYG0N/T2IBcz7k5xf+qXaxA/6Rlm03Sbi+//y2qN M4KJx4SYiWsvuOqtazp6/GhSECCH6VtBRqLa1LPMAwBb1HLJ/ol6BMHWIwKNLSXszLLVQfVEsLwcN p/VnKZwfvZjlLSo+qGao658RrDGd72Ssne8cabgRmcpjcsdXSABWrmpfbEJ7+6HyJ6MqD0+7xr2go WdA3BDd6pbQvQjgBO51v8W+MQ6KTj+O4ZnYRdNh10wvJjKEdCUWy+IfIvQ5BjT5kHGTAuNnjIoyjm qX79t2PqF1g7p02hrPkDlA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkzG6-00017p-QS; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 23:28:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Lynn Winebarger on Thu, 6 Apr 2023 08:29:15 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305167 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I suppose there's another, even more abstract concern with open source > software that is developed specifically in conjunction with a SaaSS > business, I can't be certain which program(s) you are talking about, but I think you are referring to the free version of LanguageTool as "open source" rather than "free". Nearly all free programs are open source and nearly all open source programs are free, but normally we care whather a program is free, and we do NOT care whether it is open source. https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html. I think you must have chosen to write "open source" there to convey a point, but what point was it? For any program want Emacs to incorporate or use, we insist it be free. Whether that program is open source is not a question we are concerned about. > But, would it be > acceptable for a GNU software project to depend on such software? If we have free software to do further training on the neural network, we can accept it. Does LanguageTool use a neural network? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)