From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:35:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <873577570z.fsf@localhost> <875yc2s89n.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h6vkbgot.fsf@localhost> <87mt5aj626.fsf@localhost> <87cz65hkk1.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19699"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, yantar92@posteo.net, stefankangas@gmail.com, 61325@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 22 05:36:16 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgrX-0004tK-5f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 05:36:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgrL-0003EX-8V; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:36:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgrK-0003EM-1M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgrJ-0007v3-Og for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:36:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgrJ-0000Id-KV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:36:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 04:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.16770405481127 (code B ref 61325); Wed, 22 Feb 2023 04:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2023 04:35:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57707 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgr5-0000I6-Nw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:35:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgr4-0000Ht-C9 for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:35:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgqz-0007tf-3Z; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:35:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=xjPnYOQs2ysObecLHh4QR5HA/Bq/XKKXbFoMiUW6c/w=; b=hS/WLbaVURex TqIjJdFZGAfIQ9JYrGSWQlQY99r6CEFPfNhSp99zudOZR4o7aPpPQf76LOqmNAk8BIyWfaf3XZjtF kCFOs7TE6CvtiKRTdW3RRSkp8YhR40ghR8Wr7C2IsZU+NpWyO1VuZ8ANG7Ahh6uUAbGbmlw9FWujI dY+CVvsAIJI91jXYPlmb9UWRxoz5W4oEmWrxxu0Mk/4ydTMp6mNnMJTCIp4M2GnXb27MXBOPsjIxd qpt0ujIEK/xhaGv1Jm8MSlSd3qhIe4EDESeyNb4HE3QPuFV7oLnMMavmtlsu/9TXYDiOGBGY7Ytnm 5M6gjMmCNEE7q3RRZIadkQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pUgqq-0000zZ-29; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:35:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 20 Feb 2023 18:29:30 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256319 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I think that when I wrote the Kind Communication Guidelines, I was thinking about discussions (like this one). It asks people to try to avoid offending anyone else in the discussion. That is a limited set of people to be considerate of. When the same points are applied to a book, which is published, there is a problem: anyone might read the book. So it can be interpreted as saying that the author should make sure not to offend anyone whosoever. That implies that every demand for censorship should be catered to. That is not a good outcome, and not what I intended. It looks like I will have to think more about this. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)