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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: mail@daniel-mendler.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 29.0.60; keymap-local-set and keymap-global-set became less strict
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2023 23:27:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1pOWcQ-0008JZ-R2@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mt5vuewj.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 03 Feb 2023 14:11:56 +0200)

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  > >   > The advertised API wouldn't change.  We don't expect anyone to use the
  > >   > additional argument in non-interactive invocation.  We can use
  > >   > advertised-calling-convention declaration to hide that argument from
  > >   > documented interfaces.
  > > 
  > > Why hide it?   It's better to document it.
  > > Occasionally, passing a nontrivial value for that argument is useful.

  > We don't want Lisp programs to call this function pretending to be the
  > user, because this function's raison d'être is to catch invalid key
  > sequences.

I thought we were talking about the general question, comparing
various nethods for distinguishing an interactive call.  You seem to
be talking about why some specific function wants to know when it is
called interactively.  But I don't know which function it is.

In general, when a function does something different for an interactive call.
it may be useful for its caller to say, "Treat this call as interactive."

For instance, if `foo' does something special if called interactively,
and `bar' calls `foo', maybe `bar' wants to check for an interactive
call and pass that along to `foo'.  With an argument to distinguish,
that is eas for `foo' to do.  With `callsd-interactiely-p',
it seems impossible.



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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-05  4:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-30 20:52 bug#61184: 29.0.60; keymap-local-set and keymap-global-set became less strict Daniel Mendler
2023-01-30 21:00 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-30 21:06   ` Daniel Mendler
2023-01-30 21:45     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-30 22:03       ` Daniel Mendler
2023-01-31  3:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2023-01-31  9:05   ` Robert Pluim
2023-01-31 10:08     ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-31 10:23       ` bug#61184: " Robert Pluim
2023-01-31 10:31         ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-31 10:37           ` Robert Pluim
2023-01-31 10:44             ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-31 16:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-31 14:27       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-01-31 14:30     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-31 15:02       ` Robert Pluim
2023-01-31 15:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-31 15:48       ` Robert Pluim
2023-01-31 16:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-31 16:48           ` Robert Pluim
2023-01-31 18:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 12:52               ` Robert Pluim
2023-02-01 13:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 13:13                   ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-01 13:44                     ` Robert Pluim
2023-02-01 14:11                       ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-01 13:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 13:57                       ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-01 17:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-01 18:20                           ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-01 18:54                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-01 20:22                               ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-01 22:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-01 22:56                                   ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-02  6:58                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02  9:29                                       ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-02  9:40                                       ` Robert Pluim
2023-02-02 10:17                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-03  9:17                                           ` Robert Pluim
2023-02-03  9:56                                   ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-04  9:55                                     ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-03  9:56                           ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-03 12:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-05  4:27                               ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2023-02-05  7:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-31 12:10 ` bug#61184: " Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-31 12:49   ` Daniel Mendler
2023-01-31 14:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-31 14:53       ` Daniel Mendler
2023-02-03  9:19         ` Robert Pluim

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