From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59609: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Better advertise (Non-)GNU ELPA in emacs manual Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:40:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20070"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59609@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 04 00:41:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c88-0004uz-M0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2022 00:41:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c80-0000yj-RT; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:41:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c7y-0000yN-Ft for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:41:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c7y-0002RJ-7S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:41:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c7x-0003SH-Hk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:41:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2022 23:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59609 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 59609-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59609.167011084713267 (code B ref 59609); Sat, 03 Dec 2022 23:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59609) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2022 23:40:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53978 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c7g-0003Rv-L6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:40:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:42058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c7Q-0003Rp-HR for 59609@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:40:43 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c7L-0001j7-7c; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:40:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=pqKVOQBMhirW6iZpnRun6S2700zVxLmWxRp1zpp5X5c=; b=ULYBrn2iP7hg qYSBw6UqEu3HHSk26Z4st1VP4SLQaMFZVjdCiSpf+o82XTHT9aOYCNH84mHowZLzr0hYVB8bn7t3u bOsIlKp1iFGgmfKh0zODHELVCIOjl1Le/eGyOT1HNStjaNHLY/9LugqzBuOnGv3Z01d233UuZIWKw xNHALPpw6DmTOlNNd3Wn1R2ckXSyLPdoKvC044m7shlymJog7S5M6+gaX9X57eBmriH12hH3d/0YU Z3PQos9hLGYqnsaCbg2pPAO+jon1AyxGOylwx11iG8nYsg5JOD+3kVDX4lpvdjnIUBDkfQp1xSIoV gQARdFVRJznC1P0HPy1pYg==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p1c7K-00051h-Rk; Sat, 03 Dec 2022 18:40:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 30 Nov 2022 19:49:47 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:249887 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I see no risk that the packages will suddenly go away. Under what > circumstances would that happen? Here are two ways I can envision. If somehow the developers are no longer working on it in a way we can use. If it rots and needs substantial change and the developers are not interested in doing that. > But I don't see > why we need to get into all that in this section, where we are just > letting people know that GNU ELPA and NonGNU ELPA exist. It's about two lines -- not enough to qualify as "all that". -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)