From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59609: 29.0.50; [PATCH] Better advertise (Non-)GNU ELPA in emacs manual Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1626"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59609@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 01 00:55:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p0WvC-0000C3-PQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2022 00:55:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Wuv-0005uz-F7; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:55:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Wus-0005uh-Dd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Wus-0007Og-47 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Wur-0005Z1-KS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:55:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 23:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59609 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 59609-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59609.166985246821377 (code B ref 59609); Wed, 30 Nov 2022 23:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59609) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2022 23:54:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p0WuJ-0005Yj-Lq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:54:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p0WuE-0005Yd-Js for 59609@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:54:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Wu8-0007Io-85; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:54:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=5trDUI6VvfAZDwh2zIOXRF7pCU5MmwctU6krbQj3Hxo=; b=KEU6AXyNfNp2 w0gOZw0mYpWCFa/WbtzUHwc/M3bFR1LiUPG3Yzw7mbUEOgpbaxZljbLKHtCv1Tih4oqq4aIQsWO/v VeuyI9sqYPUT3XxKT2IMovdkUunmXEerrD06cD44Vs/bW9lPgT3JMHPCJZTwJhxLqOwXMo64KNddk LTVsZeRNX6la2FITeBFjPp7CiAZVoRWFyAh+TKDxjOG8/kKj0TykbhFbpTKhSu1cRJus6V3xDtE6A bVD2Oj64Bqfy+C2i/WEP769Wc6gq8U3lG1iO1L+dF/WrN6Cn2Ok2W6dzu9qnvLv5q1Ovw6N9hMQVg mbhEf8b4dBkTwVZDxOo92Q==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0Wu6-0000em-KG; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 18:54:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 26 Nov 2022 05:44:17 -0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:249585 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I'm correcting a message I didn't write clearly. > + By default, Emacs downloads packages from GNU ELPA > +(@url{https://elpa.gnu.org/}), a package archive maintained by the > +Emacs developers and hosted by the GNU project. It also downloads > +packages from NonGNU ELPA (@url{https://elpa.nongnu.org/}). I said: I think it is ok to say this provided that these are packages we can't or should not include in Emacs, so people can't depend on them to continue to be present. I should have said: I think it is ok to say this about NonGNU ELPA provided we say clearly that these are packages we can't or should not include in Emacs, so people should not depend on them to continue to be present. Sorry. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)