From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: feature/package-vc has been merged Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:38:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <164484721900.31751.1453162457552427931@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87fsewp0ec.fsf@posteo.net> <837d0814c9.fsf@gnu.org> <878rkooz1o.fsf@posteo.net> <831qqg1306.fsf@gnu.org> <874jvcowzm.fsf@posteo.net> <83y1soypvx.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1song5x.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8nsyof7.fsf@gnu.org> <87leoond7l.fsf@posteo.net> <87pmdxgptl.fsf@posteo.net> <87iljotycc.fsf@thaodan.de> <87k044fvx9.fsf@posteo.net> <87a650twv7.fsf@thaodan.de> <87wn84ednr.fsf@posteo.net> <87y1sks82p.fsf@thaodan.de> <87mt909g3o.fsf@posteo.net> <87leojswzm.fsf@thaodan.de> <875yfluy99.fsf@thaodan.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22784"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 12 04:38:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1othLN-0005hr-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:38:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othLI-0002io-TB; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:38:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othLI-0002iN-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:38:04 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othLH-0007tM-Dw; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:38:03 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=zMnD00FCJswxJNp/qZ4wUlXq+so5txe+S/WY1hch14c=; b=nu01yCVcDENH pzo739x89mYS9CjPxj6m/8ScMLhnQgi+7XRoMoC831fSE6whxVKICPmiu1xNBR6Fdub9xCU7rw+Rh hKB8qAEp/DIDtp5LTOw+LoPkeaO72a4os98RFfKFHOCcW3k0l3sqkupPbBerrw7eDh4OOfRhWpgGT PVvBMz32P7TLCy9tS3PQzYkRU+2BDZln/P7yRWUzTe1fe3IUBpYQ/zPqz13upuhfNXtUAibTbHAVU bxz2utv2gHtiXZMPsVPKXhUholM1ZU+hfi9mhsE7Ey/11mC12DCZCURMxjwSg/hvKsXtFahgKtq4y MWYeAEYfRO39bggY8WMZGw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1othLG-0000XZ-On; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:38:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <875yfluy99.fsf@thaodan.de> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=C3=B6rn?= Bidar on Fri, 11 Nov 2022 20:44:34 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299601 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > What justifies this kind of gaslighting against Melpa? That is a nasty thing to say, because "Gaslighting" means a kind of lying. Our objections to MELPA are about MELPA's policies and actions. You can verify for yourself what we say. We reject MELPA because it includes packages that do not meet our standards. For instance, it accepts packages that violate our our moral standard: nonfree programs are an injustice and it is wrong to recommend people use one. MELPA includes packages that recommend specific nonfree programs. We are fighting to get rid of nonfree software, so we have a policy that we don't refer people to sites that recommend nonfree programs. You don't have to agree with our policies or the values they are based on. But this list is the wrong place to argue against them. If you want to do that, you can do it on gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)