From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#58856: Non-free license CC-BY-ND on GNU ELPA web pages Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23756"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 58856@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 31 12:52:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKv-0005yP-LR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:52:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKn-0003WS-5f; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKl-0003Vg-BX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKl-0004MV-2E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKk-0003WE-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:52:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 58856 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 58856-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B58856.166721711413508 (code B ref 58856); Mon, 31 Oct 2022 11:52:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 58856) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2022 11:51:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39663 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKb-0003Vo-U3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:51:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33508) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKZ-0003VZ-Px for 58856@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:51:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKU-0004KU-AI; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:51:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=TT0LSNdViYb2Pklox/Zrmi+B1lLd6VZDrmCW+XM3IOs=; b=mb7O5ZUg6SUx tCxWpE8JLWl//tkqGm//FOs0WogoybYRh9pPA6qiIwE6K+ghQqdZ9q6/TyaaE6R0T6yB82oAYLaEB wkKFSeha1KkAWyVYwJHwoih7URnGmHeZN72y80nZsF+TnG3fL7FOjPE2RrQ9dqCnkTOw0at6cS41o lLA9dK1Llar17/w9qynVJQQWbN4o15BAgOYj2Sk+wrs7eFB0NjN8boyI/bv0tCs4aI25ByGWc/NHQ 3O2CmQqL3dYf9HxAYcSJa3Uzrc46Sdcky/yRXsxxX9+heCDA8J1TAspg4O1Aotzym1Y0NiQkZs7ym 5U1Ta5gFlggj2p1VtwAbFQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1opTKT-00084W-Q8; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 07:51:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 28 Oct 2022 20:00:38 -0700) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:246675 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > On the GNU ELPA/NonGNU ELPA web pages, we are currently using the > Creative Commons Noderivatives 4.0 license. This license is in the > footer on all HTML pages on elpa.gnu.org and elpa.nongnu.org, for > example here: > https://elpa.gnu.org/ > However, this license is non-free according to the FSF.[1] Whether that is a problem depends on what sort of material is in those pages. In the GNU Project we use CC-BY-ND for publications that state our views. Most articles on www.gnu.org carry CC-BY-ND. However, for documentation of software, we use free licenses. Which of those categories do these pages fall in? (Or are theh in neither one?) That is the crucial question here. If these pages are software documentation -- that includes brief descriptions of packages -- then it should have a free license. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)