From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Allowing rolling release packages on ELPA Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:18:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o7u4p2t4.fsf@posteo.net> <5340a07b-a9bb-41a1-add2-4c0fe3f66e8c@app.fastmail.com> <87wn8nrt9q.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2944"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: bozhidar@batsov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 21:21:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1onlxg-0000XA-JM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:21:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1onlvL-0008KG-Mw; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1onlvJ-0008Fe-RZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:18:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1onlvJ-00026g-Jt; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:18:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=B6xjxXwC64nB7V+xrCnPcM38mzJPEA503/QCYFrl43o=; b=XPgN7g4iaEdE AIFN/i5GIe0fo6ZdA4vp2Yy3GuVi+wppv2YNnaX8t2VoLN7iu7b2Zh9cIIFTX32X5ivT8TA9TfEsL z/I5NRDxUD8MfPn22WigJsDJI+z3e6y3vIr45NgnZrLzG69rTPULzJyBNHUuUUjsN6PcBKAtl3F3V kfdjyRY73M5WcftRev9ZV6hoMMWKrZyR5lRwOdeIaPRu0L53lv34G5VAM8xSsrrJw2yG41xyBe5P+ A4bqWwYuQ2UfszcyI/W665+h5ldJAFmhw0CmWSpysW0tFuHc4QY5ZKHu8AhZoqZ4+pP33n+Y/Ace2 U5gCvaJzRySmwYXdNrM2gQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1onlvJ-0005jy-BF; Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:18:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wn8nrt9q.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Wed, 26 Oct 2022 06:30:41 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298579 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > >> We might decide to support their style of release, or decide not to > >> include their packages in NonGNU ELPA, or we might come up with > >> another solution. I don't know what's best. But I'm sure we should > >> think about that before we decide. > If the only issue a package has is that it is developed using a "rolling > release" model, it would be nonsensical for us to not accommodate the > request and reject a (perhaps popular) package on that ground. It may sometimes be good for us to accept such packages and call each version a "release." But we have another way to accept them: to selectively copy some versions and call them "releases", while omitting other versions. I don't think either approach is inherently nonsensical. We should not rule either one out arbitrarily. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)