From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recent fix in handling vc-tor Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 23:16:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tu4z7kc0.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfkjlktx.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2668"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 23 05:20:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1obZEW-0000U9-CS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2022 05:20:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57192 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obZEU-0007Aq-Rv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 23:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41570) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obZBR-0004hT-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 23:16:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obZBQ-0006Mo-0w; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 23:16:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=1UBdTCHDE1Xj8UE5/YI5HVc+wU7VvE7PIjh6gXwcEpc=; b=X5My0TC2vBDg LJiAemcUpovlftYJeWCSRQOSbnDZWVJxNdYjWi9ikF9V1shwUwrvu1wW1FsdcoXRdnXsY1XzPOANb WiFjOYqCeI89yCV+ZpuwgOKjWyizkAbOwKbxNdhp6/eo60KMOwE9qngdFuXVdOwRvEszslueJbi6q zEmagbdkyWtL7KrrD0yYosMNlrvjfQ6c8+W1GwcBDxjq29j2gaGphCztMMvtFJnnzGYuEJi3RiySw oxwET1JUtz9dCF/cX7dmSyEwEb1KtFMvHg7lE0fIjWKVJF6f8/h/1c6htZr3gfNaCOVwhEWDcC2/1 cQjGLx5oLTYwf/536tP0RA==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1obZBP-0007Su-Mi; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 23:16:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 22 Sep 2022 04:42:42 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296017 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Are we sure Emacs isn't doing some other funny business? I don't suppose we are -- but how can we check? Only in Emacs > 29 did we stop `ffap' from randomly making DNS lookups, for example. Fortunately I don't use ffap, but others do, so I am glad we fixed this. Is there a way we can systematically log all attempts to connect to anything on the net, to make sure we know what all of them do? IOW, shouldn't you rather be using something like torsocks emacs if you care about privacy? That seems a little extreme and inflexible. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)