From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 23:52:52 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8735dn30if.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmgr8m3t.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12145"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: relekarpayas@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 24 05:54:36 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQhTQ-00031k-He for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2022 05:54:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39604 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQhTP-0004Dn-JB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 23:54:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQhRl-0001Bj-SB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 23:52:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58784) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQhRl-00075P-Hd; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 23:52:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=EnxZBk3ppBvd8BxT5bBgtDbO4jkqS8YcrDUMv7QXX+M=; b=JR0W2/jrYZRZ RQx9A+KOPnT3KgT2mTl2taM/FBhyY7dT1V6UEyFmT49MjoQgnzZj8In9hlyvxAyczb9oR+gvcH0q6 bZYPACUFqq+8ugFKQ2h7gRlCyYwCj51n13Pu9Om/eELyTMCr9UJq29afD3QHk8DzWXP0ZffVt8ta0 chL3FAEyzrLr7tdfRZDI9ICCgc/OnJfO86sn7GDb+D07LQXQ2nQk42f0CC3csPQAMzg369cuTtDS4 Xcsg973oB4kt788KGPlK/HIFvmZN164eP8A5QAeAJAGe43vML2oPK9ioCNKBfUf2SJXllxx+o1P2O vMFbGFUwfyMuzCMqSdMJ4A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQhRk-0007AC-UD; Tue, 23 Aug 2022 23:52:52 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pmgr8m3t.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 23 Aug 2022 15:17:42 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293939 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It will not affect Wayland at all, since the Wayland drag-and-drop API > is too limited to allow Emacs to implement drag-and-drop properly there. > Most importantly, there is no way to cancel drag-and-drop after it > begins (think C-g), or to receive a notification when the pointer > reenters the frame where it originated after leaving. That sounds like a serious flaw in Wayland. Would its developers want to fix it? Does it have other UI drawbacks compared with X11, and would its developers want to fix them? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)