From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs packages, GitHub and software freedom Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:19 -0400 Message-ID: References: <875yka4b91.fsf@disroot.org> <87y1x62vic.fsf@rabkins.net> <87v8sa2p26.fsf@disroot.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40751"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: bozhidar@batsov.dev, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Akib Azmain Turja Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 05:33:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ek4-000ALc-GG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 05:33:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38296 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ek3-0007ET-7S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55838) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ej6-00061j-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36326) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ej5-0002Bs-Kx; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=FN/6auDn3uQVR3dlcnepxdG0uDv2WJ3VChO5E7V8zf0=; b=ne14LBxtpJfM XMiJ3S1cM8WEQvFvMepez0he8LqpQcxxlurVEfJ0eG2XJiTBJ6T6Y6AwVkl7ZihH/iw0eY9ZL8y/k 86Hn73tnVDzeAAnUoOvA9zRX/2QF3PzODuKgNHGD4HZp9RamXymRqZs+HJWki7dp0tas3Yo/EhAqd l2LHxYBEDqCJ384jPCzixoRUwJRv5wu3uvYmbMt80zalHXhmnzCmrG5DQIGVrrWnaHXdgtSV5rS43 B1AdcVWVvmp2RpGhp5pxmDQ6nLZx/r/Yrg7dBQjsD64WpeQRzixwHTbrECQY3cv+HmDo997VDe6PQ Ea99APBtFDOlh7S1seWEpQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o9ej5-0006ff-1M; Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:32:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87v8sa2p26.fsf@disroot.org> (message from Akib Azmain Turja on Wed, 06 Jul 2022 22:17:37 +0600) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291937 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This way you are just worsening the situation. (But you obviously have > the freedom to do that.) To increase the "contributor-base" outside > GitHub, we have to convince maintainers to move away from GitHub. I agree. But I should point out also that GitHub has several bad practices that have done great harm to the free software commnity. See https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html for what they are. These have happened for years, and we have urged people to reject GitHub for years. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)