From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: tom@logand.com, jorge@democraciareal.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2)
Date: Sun, 08 May 2022 19:36:58 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1nnqSQ-0005tY-3p@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qx6e96v.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Sat, 07 May 2022 04:55:50 +1000)
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> I disagree. The spec is open and anyone can implmeent it in any language
> they want and can license it according to any license they want.
> Google's implementation may not be open, but someone else could just as
> easily write an implementation which is.
I have to point out that whether a protocol is "open" is not what we
are concerned about. We do not advocate "open".
Our concern is whether the Oauth2 protocol can be used to communicate
with Gmail without using any non-libre software.
Free (libre) and open are different ideas and not equivalent. See
https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-08 23:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-03 5:59 gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2) Uwe Brauer
2022-05-03 6:27 ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-05-03 20:44 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-05-04 7:22 ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-04 8:43 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-05 12:57 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-05-05 13:48 ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-08 14:36 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-05-08 16:00 ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-08 16:40 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-05-09 8:38 ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-10 6:29 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-05-10 8:13 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-02 15:15 ` [app password does not work (at the moment)] (was: gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2)) Uwe Brauer
2022-06-02 15:37 ` [SOLVED (magic?)] (was: [app password does not work (at the moment)]) Uwe Brauer
2022-06-03 14:04 ` [SOLVED (magic?)] Robert Pluim
2022-06-06 6:49 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-06-06 7:47 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-06 18:55 ` [SOLVED (magic?)] (was: [app password does not work (at the moment)]) Tomas Hlavaty
2022-06-06 19:07 ` tomas
2022-06-06 19:37 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-06-07 4:35 ` tomas
2022-06-07 5:52 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-06-07 7:09 ` [Clarification] (was: [SOLVED (magic?)]) Uwe Brauer
2022-06-07 10:02 ` Yuri Khan
2022-06-07 16:24 ` [Clarification] Uwe Brauer
2022-06-07 7:15 ` [SOLVED (magic?)] (was: [app password does not work (at the moment)]) tomas
2022-06-09 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-07 5:44 ` [SOLVED (magic?)] Byung-Hee HWANG
2022-06-07 6:04 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-06-07 7:14 ` tomas
2022-06-09 22:29 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-10 7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 0:44 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-12 5:02 ` tomas
2022-06-15 10:05 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-09 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-07 23:18 ` [SOLVED (magic?)] (was: [app password does not work (at the moment)]) Richard Stallman
2022-05-05 13:56 ` gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2) Tim Cross
2022-05-05 13:58 ` Filipp Gunbin
2022-05-05 20:13 ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2022-05-05 21:44 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2022-05-06 0:43 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 8:01 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-06 9:04 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 11:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-06 12:02 ` tomas
2022-05-06 12:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-06 12:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-06 13:05 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-11 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 9:01 ` gmail+imap+smtp (davmail) Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 9:43 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-13 15:08 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 12:49 ` gmail+imap+smtp (oauth2) Tim Cross
2022-05-06 13:23 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-06 13:40 ` tomas
2022-05-06 12:34 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 12:34 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 16:49 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-06 16:41 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-06 16:38 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-06 18:55 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 19:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-08 23:36 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2022-05-09 0:26 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-10 6:53 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-11 9:04 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 23:38 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-12 9:16 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-12 16:51 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2022-05-15 23:37 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-12 7:10 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-12 9:03 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-06 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 10:30 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-08 23:37 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-09 5:13 ` tomas
2022-05-09 12:25 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-09 23:20 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 9:47 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-13 15:08 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-12 10:36 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-13 6:58 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-16 23:25 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-12 14:12 ` Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo
2022-05-13 8:57 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-13 18:49 ` Roland Winkler
2022-05-14 9:57 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-05 18:37 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-05 19:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-05 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-05 20:10 ` Uwe Brauer
2022-05-06 0:32 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 23:42 ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-05-06 1:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-05-06 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-03 23:40 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-04 2:05 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-04 5:13 ` tomas
2022-05-04 13:34 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2022-05-04 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-04 14:58 ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-04 14:48 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-04 15:41 ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2022-05-05 18:37 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 8:34 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-06 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-07 3:22 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-08 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-09 0:01 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-10 7:11 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-10 7:51 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-10 11:44 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2022-05-10 12:39 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-11 9:52 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-11 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 12:03 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-13 15:10 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 9:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-11 12:33 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-11 14:08 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-14 14:12 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-13 15:10 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-14 10:02 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-05-16 23:25 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-14 21:43 ` chad
2022-05-15 5:04 ` tomas
2022-05-05 18:36 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 0:37 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-04 15:35 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-05-04 15:48 ` Robert Pluim
2022-05-04 16:01 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-05-04 16:48 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-05 18:36 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-05 21:34 ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-05-05 22:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-05-06 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 0:54 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 2:21 ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-05-06 23:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 23:19 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-06 23:47 ` Brian Cully via Emacs development discussions.
2022-05-04 16:45 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-04 16:33 ` Tim Cross
2022-05-06 23:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-05-04 17:01 ` Cesar Crusius
2022-05-05 1:57 ` Tim Cross
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