* bug#53493: 28.0.50; eww bug
@ 2022-01-24 4:33 Richard Stallman
2022-01-24 8:57 ` Andreas Schwab
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2022-01-24 4:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 53493
I reproduced this myself with eww. The failure does not happen
with lynx, so I think the bug is in eww, not in stallman.org.
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 13:59:48 -0500
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Sure. Also: I just consider you to be an emacs expert. The steps are as
follows:
1. run emacs
2. M-x eww
3. Type in "stallman.org" and press enter
4. Go to the non political articles and try to view each of them.
On January 21, 2022 11:39:54 PM EST, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
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>
>I have never used EWW. I don't know how. Also, I am not the one who
>needs to debug this.
>
>Could you possibly send me give concrete instructions, for someone who
>has never used EWW, for how to see the problem? I could try it, then
>pass them along to the helpers who would debug this and fix it.
>
>
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* bug#53493: 28.0.50; eww bug
2022-01-24 4:33 bug#53493: 28.0.50; eww bug Richard Stallman
@ 2022-01-24 8:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-24 9:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Schwab @ 2022-01-24 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Stallman; +Cc: 53493
On Jan 23 2022, Richard Stallman wrote:
> I reproduced this myself with eww. The failure does not happen
> with lynx, so I think the bug is in eww, not in stallman.org.
The site is broken:
<p>
<a href="articles/made-for-you.html">Made for You <p>
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* bug#53493: 28.0.50; eww bug
2022-01-24 8:57 ` Andreas Schwab
@ 2022-01-24 9:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-25 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-01-24 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: Richard Stallman, 53493
Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> writes:
> On Jan 23 2022, Richard Stallman wrote:
>
>> I reproduced this myself with eww. The failure does not happen
>> with lynx, so I think the bug is in eww, not in stallman.org.
>
> The site is broken:
>
> <p>
> <a href="articles/made-for-you.html">Made for You <p>
So libxml2 parses the rest of the page as belonging in that <a
href... (which is correct, but pedantic). So there's not anything eww
can do here to fix this, and I'm closing this bug report.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#53493: 28.0.50; eww bug
2022-01-24 9:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-01-25 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-25 12:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2022-01-25 4:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: schwab, 53493
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> > The site is broken:
> >
> > <p>
> > <a href="articles/made-for-you.html">Made for You <p>
Thanks for figuring that out. I fixed that page. But,
> So libxml2 parses the rest of the page as belonging in that <a
> href... (which is correct, but pedantic). So there's not anything eww
> can do here to fix this, and I'm closing this bug report.
why does Lynx handle the page correctly?
Wouldn't it be better for eww to do what Lynx does?
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* bug#53493: 28.0.50; eww bug
2022-01-25 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2022-01-25 12:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-26 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-01-25 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Richard Stallman; +Cc: schwab, 53493
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> why does Lynx handle the page correctly?
> Wouldn't it be better for eww to do what Lynx does?
Lynx uses a different HTML parser. Emacs uses libxml2 to parse HTML,
and it parses HTML according to the standards, while Lynx has a more
DWIM parser.
If you want Emacs to handle this differently, you'll have to file a bug
report with the libxml2 developers.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#53493: 28.0.50; eww bug
2022-01-25 12:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-01-26 3:39 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2022-01-26 3:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: schwab, 53493
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
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[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> Lynx uses a different HTML parser. Emacs uses libxml2 to parse HTML,
> and it parses HTML according to the standards, while Lynx has a more
> DWIM parser.
The DWIM approach is much better for users. I wish Emacs used it.
Rigidly following a standard is not the GNU way.
But since it would be a lot of work to change that, I won't push for it.
> If you want Emacs to handle this differently, you'll have to file a bug
> report with the libxml2 developers.
Thanks. (I suppose they would say it's too much trouble.)
--
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Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
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