From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Touchscreen support Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 00:07:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87czlxkntg.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87czlxkntg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87mtkziwhi.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnk3h0hn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o85fgx4x.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mqh5tp.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yrj3m84.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ilviy3pv.fsf@yahoo.com> <87tuf1s16t.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yrglyid.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfug557u.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38560"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, larsi@gnus.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 16 06:09:57 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8xng-0009sS-EG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 06:09:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38002 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8xnf-0007eg-9Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 00:09:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8xlg-0006dI-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 00:07:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=42520 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8xlf-0004kK-Gi; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 00:07:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=JCO2Oa6Wt0Ef/Y3JtFrRcHHr96viY78DYfXEgW8oSkY=; b=CYnmh9fVJeEI iqJ75WohKT6Eic/+oviZcBs0kc0yBQ2gxaQixZRxPnkdyJsMJA7DvTGgZhUQK0Hc5sM21X2pUjbqN QT4z06O/y8jcQhVfYxB60Sw8thwxlrTJGgjiqaW25JfwhkvHHCqpN2spRrSACwjDmwHH01yGBg1aH ZE8KFC6qdO4JkuQaa3VON7e/nhNziII0RFlq7wt1d+77qkj61R7kYMQQd+vr0R8rzRAU8o/ouGrIV cspqHjldE3UOhakxNDezVK8aSiiuRUVUhv4HLfbzFnIRgJ8JhdAcub46ViVTmdFS2Ycy+i15Kde8f CZC9rNPHoUDKMX6y6AfUvQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8xle-0006ol-P9; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 00:07:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from chad on Fri, 14 Jan 2022 19:17:38 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284798 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > These days, one > might instead use a GTK4 or QT mail reader, and those toolkits would only > "promise support" for code that made gtk or qt calls; the programmer isn't > exactly prohibited from using X11 calls, but doing so is not recommended > nor supported, and if the programmer runs into trouble, they are very > likely to be told "you're breaking the abstraction barrier we set; remove > it and then come back with your problem". What happens if one asks them, "How do I solve the problem XYZ without doing an X11 call?" -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)