From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development Speed Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 00:16:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83r1a4yfpt.fsf@gnu.org> <8335mky4rl.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34947"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 25 06:18:26 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0zRq-0008uv-AB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 06:18:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39614 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0zRp-0007dj-4A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 00:18:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0zPX-0006IM-Am for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 00:16:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=37502 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0zPW-0002DP-MC; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 00:16:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=dCNHuWIGZ/uNrydQiXfOCyBYkMO9sy/JoaNYdlIPW5I=; b=Y4IBlKetOC6Q 2n6Lk2s4oRfvJrMq+riKAbHnnmk/NXdyeKPKaT1sIFoD5JdyiULRzTjoC+8UrxwRDwRQ20PZdlBUO VtLOzC1Sewrb96SsOxuKjwl/iFCvpvSapwTJbrA2VmpsdyGoN4Zy9o3TLniMTnkFtcGAmCGrISGu7 LU3uUbCOnDsPUZl9huIExFQJ56K/RJ5Gtcq0JSs+1rVl/ZrWLc7iuolDA5L/vAip8Z2IVruZ3KAsg eDv5jC/4E8R3M32bKsUwDemVx9gEutYeEr88AMNfKiLHrbh5Yv9r364AkrDPG3wIbYmXwtGk/0/P2 K9GydE3obC9msCUZpNuURQ==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0zPW-0004eo-Ad; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 00:16:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: (emacs-devel@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283177 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It is only something someone > who's spent years on maintaining Emacs can know.  And there are > some things not written at all, for example RMS in this subject > mentioned a significant issue on some old hardware support. If there are places in the Emacs sources for which it is important to know this, I think the information that is crucial to tell people would be why certain specific things should not be changed. But what would those things? Probably not small things in C code. The versions of GNU/Linux we run on these machines are not old. New versions continue to support them. They will get newer GCC versions just as other GNU/Linux users do. What these machines won't get is any faster. Thus, the thing we need to remember is, "Don't assume that the computer is as fast as a 2012 laptop, let alone as fast as a 2022 laptop." -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)