From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development Speed Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87sfulx86y.fsf@telefonica.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28835"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 24 05:15:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bzV-0007DO-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Dec 2021 05:15:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47802 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bzU-000211-4z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:15:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38172) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bxs-0007YK-Ql for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=47656 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bxs-0000FB-Es; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=HwG13Xp1KPppzTrzYvLDezb0Oie8qLjFXhBLw+Ya5QU=; b=W8139tVauosM h1r24FLfW2jdPhsVZIwfVqKkRj3vRjI4Xx49xoNPRCGovwZxkVeRcGKBigsAoVz9mRkWZ7KlDADPl 9WNpugIlN14hIXsG5i6JCTJA5/Z+5iSIK9R/xbY+ZlrfBxKrGNjc/7FMxG5BTQVOchAs1gYiLa6br d6zzBhgDpyzabP5cOWWyZzxn70bZMpItSoXmH4myL8EDp/nn2iv3jbHtBIDojoZo1toR3KFpRCoZr d5NZ08d896+3Lbl3oXs7lcbOpObXWRSqQgPB5kClu5oZmHCUvdYTk2jXITJMM45RtNWCvES6D5Lah 5ZES9z5UI1dA3IGngRMwPw==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0bxq-0002oL-RC; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 23:13:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Arthur Miller on Thu, 23 Dec 2021 11:23:35 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283076 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I was talking about the need for nonfree software in the software load to make the computer work. You've changed to a different issue: whether the hardware itself is malicious. There IS known malicious hardware in our computers. The Management Engine (and its AMD counterpart). HDCP. TPM. Other DRM hardware. Malicious hardware is as bad as malicious software -- it's the same issue. But hardware and software are different issues in other respects. See https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-hardware-designs.html for the GNU Project stand on hardware. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)