From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 3d38d1d: Add sqlite3 support to Emacs Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2021 23:57:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20211211035614.15517.53830@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20211211035616.984DD20A0A@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87ee6j4ty4.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mz4o70.fsf@yahoo.com> <83k0gbr0dm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24r33bn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ilvu1ldh.fsf@yahoo.com> <86o85ki15d.fsf@gmail.com> <87o85imjhk.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuf9hz9q.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35741"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: larsi@gnus.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 19 05:58:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1myoHU-00098b-4L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2021 05:58:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36980 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myoHT-0005MV-2y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 23:58:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55764) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myoG2-0003Xn-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 23:57:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=50846 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myoG1-0003Nk-OM; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 23:57:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:to:From: mime-version; bh=bLI/WGMA38+X0dUgpdbx+u+ZyTCsNp4H8OrQFCq0ipI=; b=XsgA4kfMlR/2 G4ZwCqn0LsNFmk43VQ2N93ZxJ6hvRMfiuN8irSZZWdPgPFX0hJ1VW5cxkZzIDhqjkDBnUpZhNXNmn MXBehHTEl/Bwusm1tkivIPlWLlGF84xrpH8zBztg/pFbGFzGKxcAkHGCQpmCtCNwFx10OTUjpJ/LE /XL5A1FtJdmxUjfDiCDHD5cKAK+NUA63efAN3KVof1DP7r2aBt1Wve6ohAh+zMVpuTPkAdoLL7RLG EzTCIJjdVrQXwPPsdTzdN4FKuH2BxYqkG94mEMCAI+KxsGP7euhuqOuIYyaAwmAXFDFMu8o336KVm MCWBrB8Esv8ESQhS+gz2+g==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1myoG1-0001bO-Rp; Sat, 18 Dec 2021 23:57:13 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 16 Dec 2021 23:25:36 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282360 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I wrote Perhaps we should package this with Emacs so as to assure every Emacs installation has the real PCRE. This is one part of a nest of serious issues. How will we expect/tell users to find sqlite3 plug-ins for use in Emacs -- for instance, PCRE? 1. Do free GNU/Linux distros package it? If so, with sqlite3 or separately? 2. What about people who aren't using one of those distros, or are not using GNU/Linux? Where would they get these? 3. Does that involve looking in package repos that contain nonfree plug-ins too? 4. What does the sqlite3 package itself say about where to get plug-ins? Does it direct people to a place with nonfree plug-ins? "How do we tell users to find sqlite3 plug-ins for use in Emacs?" is a question that will be certainly have a factual answer. If we don't choose it, other people's choices plus happenstance will choose it. So if we are going to include sqlite3 in Emacs, we had better choose a good answer for this question. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)