From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, galex-713@galex-713.eu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: [External] : New key binding syntax Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:44:54 -0500 [thread overview] Message-ID: <E1mnvle-00034X-Vw@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmjKAi1=FteLMpE4q3nOzpUinVv0-uQMrgTsqwYPpzvew@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:31:40 -0800) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Not in my experience. I have never seen + used to indicate > > keyboard modifier keys. Always C-x, never C+x. > Here are some prominent examples: > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-perform-firefox-tasks-quickly > https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-shortcut-keys.html.en > https://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer > https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-concepts-shortcuts.html How bizarre they are! I am against making this change in Emacs. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
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2021-10-12 12:47 ` master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 13:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 13:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 13:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 14:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 20:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 20:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 21:34 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-12 23:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-12 23:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 3:18 ` Moving kbd to subr.el Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 11:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 12:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 14:26 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-13 15:01 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-13 16:01 ` T.V Raman
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2021-10-13 12:50 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-13 13:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 22:28 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-14 11:50 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-14 20:28 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-14 21:04 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-15 2:07 ` Stefan Kangas
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2021-10-15 11:34 ` Andreas Schwab
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2021-10-15 13:32 ` Stefan Monnier
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2021-10-15 14:44 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-15 16:05 ` Stefan Monnier
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2021-10-15 11:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-16 14:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-16 15:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-17 19:32 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-17 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-17 19:42 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-17 19:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-18 11:52 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-18 13:07 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 12:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-20 6:47 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-20 7:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20 13:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 2:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 3:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 3:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 4:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 4:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 4:58 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-20 14:21 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-21 2:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-20 18:51 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-21 2:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21 13:40 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-22 14:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-22 15:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-22 18:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-23 23:29 ` Richard Stallman
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2021-10-26 3:01 ` Richard Stallman
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2021-10-24 18:10 ` Corwin Brust
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2021-10-25 16:06 ` Corwin Brust
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2021-10-27 14:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-28 12:19 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-28 12:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-30 6:53 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-30 12:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-31 2:39 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-31 14:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-02 3:54 ` New key binding syntax Richard Stallman
2021-11-02 11:08 ` John Yates
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2021-11-04 9:37 ` Robert Pluim
2021-11-04 17:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-11-08 23:50 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-11-10 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-10 14:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-11-10 17:24 ` Drew Adams
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2021-11-13 18:47 ` Drew Adams
2021-11-16 4:05 ` Richard Stallman
2021-11-16 6:21 ` Alexandre Garreau
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2021-11-18 14:59 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-18 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-11-18 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-18 15:32 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-18 16:20 ` Yuri Khan
2021-11-18 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-18 21:13 ` Alexandre Garreau
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2021-11-19 4:44 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
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2021-11-19 12:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-19 12:48 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-11-16 16:25 ` Drew Adams
2021-11-10 17:24 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-17 19:55 ` Moving kbd to subr.el Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-17 21:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 6:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 12:46 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 13:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 13:50 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 15:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 16:03 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-18 13:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-18 13:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 14:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-18 15:34 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-18 15:53 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-18 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 15:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 16:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 20:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-18 22:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-19 2:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-19 2:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 7:02 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-19 7:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 10:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-10-19 13:08 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 14:48 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-19 17:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 17:51 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-19 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-20 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-20 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-22 3:29 ` Po Lu
2021-10-19 12:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-19 13:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 13:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 14:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 14:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 14:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 14:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 14:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 15:03 ` Robert Pluim
2021-10-19 14:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-19 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-19 15:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 19:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 19:00 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-19 20:53 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-19 20:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-19 21:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-20 22:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-21 2:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-20 1:54 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-19 14:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-19 14:03 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 16:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 17:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-19 18:54 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-25 14:22 ` Making a key undefined again Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-25 14:30 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-25 14:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-25 17:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-25 17:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-25 22:49 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-25 22:59 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-25 23:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-25 23:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-26 16:11 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-10-26 19:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-18 16:01 ` Moving kbd to subr.el Juri Linkov
2021-10-18 16:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-19 3:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-18 1:41 ` T.V Raman
2021-10-18 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 7:27 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 11:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 11:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 12:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 13:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 13:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-10-14 14:05 ` dick
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2021-10-14 14:31 ` dick
2021-10-14 14:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 14:36 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 12:36 ` Representing key sequences (was: master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap) Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 13:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 16:28 ` Representing key sequences Stefan Monnier
2021-10-13 23:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 14:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 14:40 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-13 8:54 ` master 859190f 2/3: Convert some keymaps to defvar-keymap Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 11:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 12:25 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 12:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 13:05 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 14:28 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 14:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-13 14:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-13 15:32 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 16:07 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-13 21:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-13 22:55 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-14 7:41 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 12:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 12:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 12:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 12:58 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 13:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 13:41 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 13:53 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 13:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 14:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 19:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 19:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 19:32 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 20:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 20:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-14 20:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 20:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 20:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 20:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-14 21:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-14 21:10 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-14 21:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-16 17:07 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-10-14 20:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-14 21:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-10-12 20:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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