From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : New key binding syntax Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 23:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87bl3jjdfw.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf2mwl68.fsf@posteo.net> <874k99f8ev.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfwtrttu.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtn1cdbh.fsf@gnus.org> <87o87hrte4.fsf@posteo.net> <878rylccyi.fsf@gnus.org> <87fssssz57.fsf@posteo.net> <87v91oc49k.fsf@gnus.org> <877de2a746.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf2d5obc.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee82r8p0.fsf@gnus.org> <87v91dnsxg.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29088"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 13 05:11:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mlkO4-0007Pu-Ls for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 13 Nov 2021 05:11:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58546 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlkO2-0001vj-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 23:11:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49074) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlkN0-00019M-Kl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 23:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=59568 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlkN0-0006iR-5o; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 23:10:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=KlTIldSvJIZFx52rrNLEQecsNlUudcf/IRbSjpH26/Y=; b=lz/6m53chSyE SsCfu7QHS6zwpenMDPNb4FU4MneMfBX+mPBuGXAe5Ux5RP7d41gPypTpnSGigbgX654hnkipGeYlM 0zPS2w9xx39zbLx8E/UBGEbwkyw8iHgrxcnDY/6JLXGa58r7Yuc+guILV9R3T2QpQTE5VwNhVLn3h jYjda6YfFDOyu63ARckA7ECVwoxxkgh5z03NGv4lVz9HF7NiGctU11wNLf7ba7iBzDuqeAzDkRP/I TSmV5Ol6GSP7LJhHKiCR9f9i1hLVT6V2OMz/zwO9PqgvRw0AyVpYOKwAe7pm6vAypdu4kAyZ17Uky YoN2p7DIK5WY3No2liQ/9w==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mlkN0-0006oN-1a; Fri, 12 Nov 2021 23:10:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 10 Nov 2021 06:53:45 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279300 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > My problem is not technical but social: we are used to seeing M- > so it might be jarring to suddenly see M-return. Isn't the latter also > harder to read? I am not sure which one is easier to read. I also wonder if there could be confusion between M-RET and M- if the former can be written M-ret and the latter can me written M-return. I don't see how to come up with an answer that is rigorously correct, for these questions. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)