From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 23:01:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <83fsszfnjw.fsf@gnu.org> <31b2f1e9412c9002c8f4@heytings.org> <875ytvpgnn.fsf@gnus.org> <838ryqftlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgr487cj.fsf@gnus.org> <875ytrzg13.fsf@posteo.net> <87bl3jjdfw.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf2mwl68.fsf@posteo.net> <874k99f8ev.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfwtrttu.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtn1cdbh.fsf@gnus.org> <87o87hrte4.fsf@posteo.net> <878rylccyi.fsf@gnus.org> <87fssssz57.fsf@posteo.net> <87v91oc49k.fsf@gnus.org> <83h7d73qbz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9773"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 26 05:02:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mfCjZ-0002Jm-9i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 Oct 2021 05:02:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50396 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfCjX-0003D4-KV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 23:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfCix-0002T5-3z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 23:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfCiv-00065S-0a; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 23:02:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=EmamiRylWuPiw2ObXP/ABnH/cdJrV00Bwkvbz2O16Gs=; b=TyfAm+F87PLb P+6oae3G0HOfP5XH4vWwwj7MJcXCck8u3nZjxePbq0UMk3chIcLpqkqSc2fJo4TSQ7ObLJqvum/mV B/2rgqF69lEnS7gHC2jeTpbFXoY3nHuqwbxD8sUMM0O/3k3BzG+kNdC/lvyeFWBZ5nEmJ6BY81kqC PIeLVbb8tZYql3E36+TcwLouH6m0PB1hcMHpRuzIn3Izwsm7VJTIBpskfBlhMbUC2cMM/jdrdE8c9 1Kwu5eNZf/C6H732ItVM3n7TfgmI/DtRvhUcAb08oeKRaV0dN/LavGypSAwOTcojGqagWSWLHteD9 NFWVHCMugfGS5YCm3x+04A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mfCit-0003w8-4F; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 23:01:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83h7d73qbz.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:10:56 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277815 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > We can move `kbd' to subr.el as is, for short-term convenience > It's already there, has been for the last 9 years. Sorry, I assumed from the complaints about calling kbd too early on that the problem was that it wasn't defined yet. But that's a side issue. The point is, let's not prematurely assume that the key binding syntax we settle on has to be that of kbd. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)