From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:47:09 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <878ryxakv9.fsf@gnus.org> <834k9km5no.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0iflsze.fsf@gnu.org> <874k9jzu7a.fsf@gnus.org> <874k9juy0r.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtnbtimj.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnmd13ny.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfx10xs6.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7dfpjn3.fsf@gnus.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <83fsszfnjw.fsf@gnu.org> <31b2f1e9412c9002c8f4@heytings.org> <875ytvpgnn.fsf@gnus.org> <838ryqftlh.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31498"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, gregory@heytings.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 20 08:51:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md5Rx-0007u1-9e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 08:51:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55404 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5Rv-0003eI-Um for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49014) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5NX-0007br-Jt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5NX-0002sv-9O; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5NV-0003Ea-Am; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:47:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: <838ryqftlh.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:41:30 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277423 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > You mean, ""? > > > > > > (kbd "<123>") returns [\123] > > > > I was momentarily confused, but that's the symbol with a name "123", > > which means that kbd thinks that's a fine symbolic key name. (This may > > be an error, though.) > > > > (equal [\123] [123]) > > => nil We DON'T HAVE TO stick to the syntax we have used with kbd. If we are going to relegate the old syntax to "permanently deprecated" as I recommend, we can design a new syntax, whichever syntax we like. It doesn't have to use the function `kbd'. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)