From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A read-based grep-like for symbols (el-search?) (was Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master)) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:45:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <25d8d72022b571db5291@heytings.org> <87h7e2xsl5.fsf@gmail.com> <25d8d72022e1ea7ed022@heytings.org> <87fstl7lzw.fsf@web.de> <87a6jt7ilx.fsf@web.de> <87fstlzlaq.fsf@gmail.com> <20211001070242.GC16352@tuxteam.de> <19fca5d18b32e460269b@heytings.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7801"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 20 08:47:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1md5Np-0001nG-G4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 08:47:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49266 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5Nn-0007pk-EO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:47:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5LU-00061o-6Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5LT-0007fU-NV; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1md5LR-0002ne-SV; Wed, 20 Oct 2021 02:45:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <19fca5d18b32e460269b@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 21:22:55 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277420 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I understand that it is intended to be a long-term solution, but it is > not. We cannot convince all these library authors to change the way they > write calls to Magnars' libraries, yet with the chosen solution, it will > nonetheless be necessary to adapt each Elisp file they write, by changing > the (require 's) into a (require 'magnars-string) and by adding a > read-symbol-shorthands local variable at the end of these files. I think there is a misunderstanding about how we plan to handle this. Unless I have misremembered, we plan to replace the file s.el with a simple file that sets up a shorthand for `s-' and loads magnar-string.el. The programs that currently use s.el will require no change at all. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)