From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51180: M-x emacs-lisp-byte-compile-and-load Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87v921f9lv.fsf@miha-pc> <87v9216tix.fsf@gnus.org> <875ytztf85.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22567"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 51180@debbugs.gnu.org, miha@kamnitnik.top To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 16 00:48:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mbW0X-0005h6-3E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Oct 2021 00:48:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43798 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbW0V-0004A5-Tz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:48:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53534) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVze-000392-A6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57254) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVze-0005hv-25 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVzd-00087X-Sa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:48:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 22:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 51180-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51180.163433805831136 (code B ref 51180); Fri, 15 Oct 2021 22:48:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51180) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Oct 2021 22:47:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVzF-000866-NB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51348) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVzD-00085M-W4 for 51180@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVz7-0005Cl-Rh; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:29 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mbVz7-0000ik-Ng; Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:47:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <875ytztf85.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 15 Oct 2021 00:26:50 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:217334 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Does it simplify programs enough > > to outweigh the added complecity of defining and docuenting it? > It is defined and documented, so I'm not sure what you're asking. I was going to suggest we should raise our threshold, in general, for adding a simple "convenience" function. However, I see that this exists for the sake of a menu binding. I think that's reasonable. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)