From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Adding a binding for 'undo-redo' Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 13:08:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <6bb8f829-ec85-ea42-3146-c6bf8ca89495@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6701"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 29 19:11:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mVd6o-0001QK-Cc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 19:11:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38316 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVd6n-0001Mr-Bs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 13:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVd4f-0007OM-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 13:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVd4f-0002NJ-9S; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 13:08:53 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mVd4f-0005rb-3G; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 13:08:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:25:33 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275818 Archived-At: The "technical hurdle" of finding a good binding isn't the place to start. The place to start is to wait for users to use and bind it, and then see how much a default binding would make sense. Here lies chaos. For coherent design, and logical keybindings, one cannot wait until users have bound a key. It is a good indication of what might be used, but not what might make sense in the grand picture.