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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: oauth2 support for Emacs email clients
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2021 10:15:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1mBe9Z-0005T5-4j@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210803131426.GB12628@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de)

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > > It is indeed "security through obscurity".  But it is (a kind of)
  > > security nonetheless [...]

  > I can't help it. To me it smells of some semi-hidden variant of
  > "market control".

We can't tell what "their" intentions were, and indeed, those that
approved this spec may have had different intentions.  The companies
that implement the spec may have different intentions now.  And each
company may change its intentions in 2022 or 2023.

Thus. I think speculating about intentions is unprofitable.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-05 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-03  5:00 oauth2 support for Emacs email clients Roland Winkler
2021-08-03  6:32 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-08-03  8:21 ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-03 19:38   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-04  0:56     ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-04  7:27       ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-04  7:41       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-04 23:12         ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-04  7:03   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-04  7:21     ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-05 10:34       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-03  9:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-03 19:27   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-03 22:02     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-05  0:21     ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-10 14:39       ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-11  0:43         ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-11  0:54           ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-12  2:16             ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-12  2:33               ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-03 20:21   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-03 20:40     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-03 21:14       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-03 21:19         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 10:46       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-14 11:12         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 11:47           ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-15  3:04           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-15  3:04           ` Making your own application credentials as a user Richard Stallman
2021-08-15  4:10             ` Tim Cross
2021-08-03  9:20 ` oauth2 support for Emacs email clients Eric S Fraga
2021-08-03 11:17   ` Tim Cross
2021-08-03 12:55     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-03 13:14       ` tomas
2021-08-05 14:15         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2021-08-03 15:04     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-03 19:45       ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-04  6:58         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-03 19:41   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-04  6:59     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-04 14:45     ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-04 22:45       ` Tim Cross
2021-08-04 23:29         ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-05  7:45         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-08  3:58       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-09  8:30         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-12  2:15           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-12 18:59             ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-03 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-08  6:01   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-08  6:30     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-08 23:48       ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-09  0:01         ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-08  8:52     ` David Engster
2021-08-08 14:22       ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-08 14:47         ` David Engster
2021-08-08 15:30           ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-08 16:00             ` David Engster
2021-08-08 23:31               ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-10  2:01               ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-10  9:07                 ` David Engster
2021-08-10 14:41                   ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-10 15:56                     ` David Engster
2021-08-11  6:37                       ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-08-11  3:00                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-11  9:57                     ` David Engster
2021-08-13  3:10                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-11  2:55                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-14 15:00                   ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-14 15:26                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-08 16:05             ` Tim Cross
2021-08-09  8:39               ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-10  3:29       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-10  6:08         ` Tim Cross
2021-08-10 14:18           ` Roland Winkler

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