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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Shane Mulligan <mullikine@gmail.com>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-tangents@gnu.org,
	bugs@gnu.support
Subject: Re: Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:06:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1m7SbY-0004hw-1D@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT87Jqbyqgm=uPb-rLLYE9BmWHfBFP4s9+cA8UcPJ-6nb3cLQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Shane Mulligan on Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:51:19 +1200)

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  > GPT is potentially the best thing to happen to emacs in a very long time.

If GPT-3 were released as a free program, we might want to use it.
Perhaps it would be very useful.

Please correct me if I am mistaken, but I think GPT-3 is an unreleased
program which people can use only via SaaSS.  SaaSS stands for Service
as a Software Substitute.  It means that a "service" accepts your
data, does a specific computing job, and sends you back the results.
Using such a service is morally mostly equivalent to running a nonfree
program -- so we cannot suggest that anyone DO that.

See https://gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html for
more explanation of this issue.

  > The way this will work is you will download
  > the free GPT model, such as GPT-j, GPT-neo or
  > GPT-neox and then you will have an offline and
  > private alternative to many things previously
  > you would go online for.

Are you saying there is a free replacement for GPT-3 and we can
run these free models with it on our own computers?

That could be good news, because we could actually use it.

  > It will bring back power from the corporations and save it to your
  > computer,

That sounds exciting but it is not concrete enough to think about.

              open source and transparent, 

What follows is a side issue, but it's an important side issue.

"Open source" is the slogan of a campaign we don't advocate.
It is partly similar to the free software movement but discards
the moral foundation: the idea of freedom.

We don't use the slogan "open source" because we want to advocate
freedom, not forget it.

See https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
for more explanation of the difference between free software and open
source.  See also https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-meme-hustler for
Evgeny Morozov's article on the same point.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-25  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-30  4:36 Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs) Shane Mulligan
2021-07-02 13:30 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-02 13:40 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-02 13:57 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-03  6:34   ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-03 22:21     ` Jean Louis
2021-07-03 23:21       ` Arthur Miller
2021-07-03 23:42         ` Jean Louis
2021-07-12  3:24           ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-17 23:53             ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-23 15:37     ` Jean Louis
2021-07-15 11:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-07-15 12:40   ` dick
2021-07-15 23:52   ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-16  7:30     ` tomas
2021-07-17  0:33       ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-17  7:54         ` tomas
2021-07-17  7:52       ` Jean Louis
2021-07-17  0:51   ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-17  2:36     ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-17  9:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17  9:27         ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-17 21:02           ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-18  5:38             ` Jean Louis
2021-07-18  5:38             ` Jean Louis
2021-07-18  7:03               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-18  8:00                 ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-19 17:00                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23  6:51                     ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-23 10:12                       ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 10:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-23 11:32                           ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 11:51                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-23 12:47                               ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 13:39                                 ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-23 14:39                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-26  0:16                                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-26  0:28                                     ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-30  3:20                                       ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-30  6:55                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 19:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  3:07                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  7:32                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  7:54                                       ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:50                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 16:16                                           ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24 16:44                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 18:01                                               ` Jean Louis
2021-07-25  1:09                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-24  1:14                             ` Richard Stallman
2021-07-24  2:10                               ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-24  2:34                                 ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-24  3:14                                   ` Shane Mulligan
2021-07-24  6:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  7:33                                 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:10                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  8:21                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:35                                     ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24  8:59                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 16:18                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24 16:45                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 17:57                                             ` Jean Louis
2021-07-24 18:15                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  7:41                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24  7:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24  9:31                                     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24 11:19                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 14:16                                         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24 14:37                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-24 14:49                                             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-24 15:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-25  1:06                       ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2021-07-18  6:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17 21:35           ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-17 23:53       ` Richard Stallman

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