From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Help building Pen.el (GPT for emacs) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:53:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Shane Mulligan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 18 01:54:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4u89-0005Cd-Fr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 01:54:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39182 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4u88-00057D-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33840) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4u7X-0003W4-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4u7X-000522-2G; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4u7W-0003wM-Au; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:53:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Shane Mulligan on Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:36:15 +1200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271349 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I think the end-goal should be to have a close collaboration with > EleutherAI, who already have an open-source alternative to the Copilot > model. It's called GPT-j. Perhaps that is a good path, but we need to know more. You've described this as an "open-source alternative". Most of the time, when developers describe their work as "open-source", it is because they don't share our ethical principles and criteria. For instance, most open-source programs are free/libre, but there are exceptions. So we need to look at what they are developing to see what software it consists of, and whether it consists entirely of free software that can be included in a version of the GNU system. See https://gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html. > The problem is that there are very few people within EleutherAI using emacs > and few people who can help. Assuming they are heading for the right goal, it would be great for you to offer your help, and I'm sure they will find plenty of people here who would like to do that. If they could make their system keep track of licenses from which text was obtained, they could implement something to avoid one of the pitfalls of Copilot: that it gives you a substantial amount of code that is substantially similar to one copyright work and thus leads you unknowing into infringement. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)