From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Suggested experimental test Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:06:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <831ba60af0cbfdd95686@heytings.org> <87mtuxj8ue.fsf@gnus.org> <9088e12cb3169cdcdbc4@heytings.org> <9088e12cb3a70cbf66aa@heytings.org> <9088e12cb381e11e6d32@heytings.org> <9088e12cb36020430ea2@heytings.org> <271290d7aa5560786ded@heytings.org> <271290d7aa8a72cee4a3@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35236"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 23 09:07:45 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc4m-00093b-Ts for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:07:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57232 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc4l-00009B-UU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:07:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc3l-0007i5-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49667) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc3k-0004r8-9A; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:06:40 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lOc3j-0000lP-GQ; Tue, 23 Mar 2021 04:06:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:26:06 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:266862 Archived-At: And sure, 3rd-party code can likewise trample on Emacs default bindings. But that's asking for trouble. And removing features from users isn't? :-) I don't think we want to _encourage_ that. But by binding more and more keys by default, Emacs dev does indeed risk encouraging just that - a wild free-for-all. There is plenty of keybindings available for third-party modes. Emacs could also just state a policy that 3rd party stuff can some keybindings like C-o / M-o for other purposes, with a caveat emperor instead of removing those features.