From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:03:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37498"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 26 07:05:18 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4HTZ-0009aT-CH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 07:05:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44630 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4HTY-0006hf-DG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:05:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42768) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4HRt-0004jO-Mf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40271) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l4HRs-0002WH-Pj; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l4HRp-0004Vg-Bl; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:03:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Ulrich Mueller on Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:27:55 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263441 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I fear we are out of luck there. Libreoffice documentation at > https://help.libreoffice.org/3.3/Common/XML_File_Formats#Definition_of_the_XML_formats > says "The schema for the OpenDocument formats can be found on the > www.oasis-open.org web site", i.e., it points to the same nonfree files. If we were looking for alternative definitions of those formats, you found that there were none there. But that doesn't necessarily mean there is a problem in LibreOffice. > I've also checked the Gentoo app-office/libreoffice-7.0.4.2 package, > and it doesn't install any Relax-NG schemas. It only installs DTDs for > the older OpenOffice.org 1.x format. These are licensed under MPL-2.0. It sounds like those are enough in practice. That is a vital bit of good news. In what directory does it install them? I'd like to see which ones the Trisquel package contains. What is the command I should use in dpkg to find out what files a package contains? > Maybe it's time to contact OASIS Open and ask them if they would > consider relicensing the Relax-NG schemas. I think we will do that, but let's not rush. We just got mail from someone who knows more than we do about Relax-NG schemas. Let's see what we can learn from per about how to deal with this. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)