From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.tangents Subject: Re: Privileges and practicalities [was: Re: [ELPA] New package: repology.el] Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:42:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87zh1jag72.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12371"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-tangents@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, self@gkayaalp.com, eliz@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 09 07:43:02 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7xl-00034w-Qt for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 07:43:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47316 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7xk-0001LF-T0 for get-emacs-tangents@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:43:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58328) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7xX-0001Jd-QT for emacs-tangents@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:42:47 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54994) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7xT-0005ab-Cj; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:42:46 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ky7xR-0006RE-GA; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 01:42:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Ulrich Mueller on Fri, 08 Jan 2021 17:23:46 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-tangents@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-tangents-bounces+get-emacs-tangents=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-tangents" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.tangents:544 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > What GNU project promotes is free software. GNU never says to its > > users to use exclusively free software and never condemns people for > > using proprietary software. > Yet it maintains a blacklist of common GNU/Linux distros and labels them > as "unethical", even if these distros (like Debian and Fedora) have a > clear policy to exclude anything non-free from their main repositories. This is a miscommunication. You and Jean are talking about different things. Jean is presenting the GNU Project's moral philosophy. We say that every nonfree program is an injustice, so recommending a nonfree program for use is unethical. To lead users to run it is unethical. When we say that a distro is unethical, that simply means that the distro contains or recommends or leads users to run nonfree software. Nothing other than that. It's not a personal criticism of the distro developers. I'm confident that the Debian developers and the Gentoo developers are honest and follow their moral codes. We don't mean to criticize them as people. We try to make this clear in gnu.org/distros. If you see anything there which is not clear, please write me privately and show me the text you mean. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)