From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:44:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r1na4tyu.fsf@gnus.org> <87tus6tj7s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6txigm1.fsf@gnus.org> <874kk5lzew.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1088"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 05 07:49:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kwg9f-0000Ac-Nc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 07:49:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36316 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwg9e-0002EH-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:49:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwg5K-0007Gz-56 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:44:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwg5G-00007K-Rh; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:44:47 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kwg5C-0005tw-Qt; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:44:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Mon, 04 Jan 2021 09:23:34 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262501 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > You defined C-g, C-q, C-r, C-s, C-w and C-y in 1985 (or perhaps earlier). When we changed to RET to exit, did we also change C-y to M-y? I do have a memory of using M-y years ago to yank the last kill into a search, and choosing M-y for that precisely because using it to exit the search was pointless (since it would always get an error after a search). I remembered those keys because they were so prominent and so natural that they stuck in my mind. Also, C-q in search was comparable to C-q in insertion. > C-h has also been bound in the meantime, but you can still exit isearch > with C-h as you would have done it in 1985, for instance with C-h C-g, or > C-h f. IIUC the only difference is that C-h k now describes the key in > isearch-mode-map instead of the key in global-map. > Likewise, C-x has been bound in the meantime, to allow C-x 8 RET, but you > can still exit isearch with C-x as you would have done in 1985, for > instance with C-x C-f or C-x b. > Likewise, C-u has been bound in the meantime, to allow arguments to > subcommands, but again you can still exit isearch with C-u as you would > have done in 1985, for instance with C-u C-b or C-u C-n. I did not know that. Thanks for telling me. But is there really nothing else now? I have a nonspecific memory of seeing discussion of various new key bindings in search. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)