From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recentish C-s M-y change Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 00:58:31 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r1na4tyu.fsf@gnus.org> <87tus6tj7s.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6txigm1.fsf@gnus.org> <874kk5lzew.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14956"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 03 06:59:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kvwQd-0003nd-IG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 06:59:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60820 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvwQc-0004Xw-K2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 00:59:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvwPT-0003w1-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 00:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kvwPT-0002On-A8; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 00:58:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kvwPP-0002M1-38; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 00:58:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:55:02 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262344 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I think Richards point was that there had been such changes, if they > > where made in 1992 or some other year isn't really significant. Rather, > > that they still trip him over. > > > Yes, and my question is: to which point of time is he referring? It isn't about any particular date or time. That's not the kind point this is. You're addressing a specific detail. That would make sense if the detail were part of a step in an argument for a technical point. But this isn't that kind of point. Maybe that is why I have not stated the point in a precise and sharp way. Because the idea doesn't come sharp. Coming up with a clear analysis of it takes reflection. After some reflection, here's what I think the point is. isearch-mode-map is not like a prefix key's map. A control character which is undefined in isearch-mode-map is not a vacant space, not a place you can put some nice new feature and nobody will mind. The undefined control character is a useful convenience feature, which people use. Except that with many control characters defined, it is hard to remember which ones are defined -- hard to be confident that a given control character is one that will exit the search for you. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)