From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:10:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <838s9zavcx.fsf@gnu.org> <87im92nmd6.fsf@gnus.org> <83y2hx91u1.fsf@gnu.org> <87czz9enc6.fsf@gmail.com> <83sg858yjr.fsf@gnu.org> <878s9wetdb.fsf@gmail.com> <81fd6785-f9b5-4926-9363-1d63f8672599@default> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27761"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 17 19:11:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kpxk3-00075G-EU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 19:11:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57408 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpxk2-0000q9-F1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpxjT-0000L1-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:10:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57382) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpxjS-0006BX-HQ; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:10:30 -0500 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kpxjR-0007xU-R1; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 13:10:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: <81fd6785-f9b5-4926-9363-1d63f8672599@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:06:02 -0800 (PST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261128 Archived-At: If some more than a few people really do expect setting (option) changes to be saved automatically, then we could add an option (!) (or a minor mode) that does that. Turn on that option, and thereafter all changes you make to options, faces, themes, etc. get saved automatically. FWIW (tiny data point) I know many users that are suprised about the fact that toggling an option in the menu-bar doesn't save it permanently. Note that that behavior can get in the way of user experimentation. Not that it's necessarily limiting - it's just a different approach. It would be nice if one could see what options one set (via the toolbar); then one could see what one is experimenting with.