From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:19:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20201016130235.06218dae@argon> <20201016142436.187b8210@argon> <20201016152523.6fdfef65@argon> <6142a27f-c53b-35bf-1038-5f047395e868@yandex.ru> <20201016204531.77fab05b@argon> <20201016190846.GI11061@protected.rcdrun.com> <70ea157a-967c-4145-9dc7-1cfc215ad9a0@default> <20201016201547.GP11061@protected.rcdrun.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15282"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mve1@runbox.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 17 06:32:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdsz-0003qs-6p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 06:32:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35808 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdsy-00087R-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdgk-0000xx-Ig for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:19:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49437) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdgk-0002Dq-4f; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:19:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kTdgi-0007Js-Tj; Sat, 17 Oct 2020 00:19:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20201016201547.GP11061@protected.rcdrun.com> (message from Jean Louis on Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:15:47 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257901 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > No, not really. A commodity is something that's > > produced for sale. > Emacs have been sold and can be sold today, thus it is commodity by > definition. Would people please take this discussion off the list emacs-devel? This list is for discussing practical questions about what to do in Emacs development. That discussion of semantics doesn't contribute, it is a tangent about semantics. Having disputes like this on the list makes the list unpleasant, so please move it. https://gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html urges people to resist the temptation to discuss tangets. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)