From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:59:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4a1188f8-9864-54c0-ae6f-5f32102d9757@gmx.com> <20201011073553.GA6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201011120840.GC2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201011125031.GC6784@odonien.localdomain> <20201012050418.GZ2923@protected.rcdrun.com> <20201013052736.GE31408@protected.rcdrun.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12560"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 16 05:59:58 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTGuM-00035w-0j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 05:59:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTGuL-0007XK-1U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:59:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTGtl-00076H-4T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:59:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kTGtk-0004DZ-Mw; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:59:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kTGtX-0003Kz-FY; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 23:59:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20201013052736.GE31408@protected.rcdrun.com> (message from Jean Louis on Tue, 13 Oct 2020 08:27:36 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257763 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > On that page, we are warning users with below wording. Yes. I wrote those words. It is crucial to have them there, because we mention Windows and MacOS. Where we mention them, we should explain why they are unjust -- because otherwise people will assume we share the usual amoral attitude towards them. I think of it as a denunciation, not a warning. Why is it ok to mention Windows and MacOS there? Because everyone using a computer already knows about them. See node References in the GNU Coding Standards (https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/). I hope that only a minority of Emacs users know about MELPA, and I'd rather not inform the rest about it. But if something is going to inform them anyway, it is better to do it with a denunciation. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)