From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opening Up More Keymaps Re: Standardizing more key bindings? Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <24436.53239.437810.270641@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <24436.58187.698211.262192@retriever.mtv.corp.google.com> <83362yisgn.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2kpf74o.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, raman@google.com To: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 05 05:13:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPGvu-0008Tt-86 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 05:13:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51926 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPGvt-0002wn-8W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPGuC-0001lE-9M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:11:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kPGuB-0008Hw-Se; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:11:15 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kPGu0-0000FL-M3; Sun, 04 Oct 2020 23:11:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: (ams@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257062 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Showing a message that C-z no longer suspends Emacs, but if you press > z or C-z again it will do that is being helpful. In ten years time, > maybe that message can be removed. As long as Emacs is used, there will be people who run it on a tty and don't know how to get out. If C-c doesn't do it, they will try C-z. At least one of them should point the way to the exit. > Might be worth noting that the behaviour of C-z also dates back to the > Lisp Machines where it meant to go back to top-level I am pretty sure it worked on ITS in 1976. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)