From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A proposal for a friendlier Emacs Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 02:22:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4be18b5f-dc07-2703-a2de-1ed08916ebdf@gmail.com> <3774c435-60d6-a958-77d1-a831599c85c5@gmail.com> <83sgbd1qsz.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31469"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: nicola.manca85@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 20 08:23:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJskX-00084m-BT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 08:23:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51372 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJskW-0007ve-DW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 02:23:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJsja-00075H-GZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 02:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59286) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJsja-0000C8-5h; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 02:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kJsjY-0004h0-Bu; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 02:22:00 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Andrea Corallo on Sat, 19 Sep 2020 21:37:05 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256234 Archived-At: I'm not a UI designer but my observation is that especially when these are made to help new starters they try to give only the least (but very important) possible information. If giving the user the least possible information, how can one hope that they will learn anything? That seems quite backwards. I think stuffing alot of information in the spash screen makes it less effective, but I have no proof of that :) But nobody was suggesting that...