From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt)
Cc: akrl@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A modern-mode?
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 07:17:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1kIVQy-0001EN-Uy@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: In-reply-to: <87v9ge3tet.fsf@gkayaalp.com> (message from Göktuğ Kayaalp on
Wed, 16 Sep 2020 13:30:50 +0300)
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On 2020-09-16 10:36 +03, Alfred M. Szmidt <ams@gnu.org> wrote:
> The word modern has a negative meaning in that it implies that the
> rest of Emacs isn't modern -- why would users ever want to switch of
> "modern-mode" and use the un-modern Emacs?
IMHO reading too much into names is not productive. ‘Modern’ is a term
that’s used fairly often in this context, and what to expect would be
obvious to those who would want to use such a mode: features common to
contemporary text editors.
Names mean things and in this discussion it was because Emacs was seen
as old (i.e., un-modern), a new user would be curious why modern-mode
isn't the default. And as the discussion has showed, there is no
agreement what people think is modern. So it would be simply better
to avoid the term "modern" completely.
What features to put in there could slowly brew until 28 is released.
Why not slowly brew those and make them default instead?
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2020-09-15 14:41 A modern-mode? Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 14:51 ` Ergus
2020-09-16 0:16 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-15 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:34 ` Teemu Likonen
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2020-09-15 21:08 ` Antoine Kalmbach
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2020-09-16 7:52 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 15:13 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 16:31 ` Theodor Thornhill
2020-09-15 15:56 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-15 16:47 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
[not found] ` <a4bc94ca-3130-463a-bd79-3dbffbbce492@default>
2020-09-15 17:11 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 17:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 17:35 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 18:47 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-15 20:48 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 0:07 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 8:58 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 9:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 10:39 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 10:47 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:20 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 5:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 7:27 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 7:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 8:36 ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 14:37 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16 15:00 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:22 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-17 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 10:30 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-16 11:17 ` Alfred M. Szmidt [this message]
2020-09-16 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 14:46 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 21:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-16 15:33 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 15:54 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
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2020-09-16 16:17 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 16:32 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-09-16 16:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 16:30 ` Alan Third
2020-09-16 16:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 22:11 ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 21:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-16 15:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-16 15:27 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16 16:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 3:58 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17 4:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-17 9:54 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2020-09-18 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 16:45 ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:47 ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 18:19 ` Daniel Martín
2020-09-16 18:45 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 20:02 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 21:36 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 0:11 ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:17 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-17 19:54 ` arthur miller
2020-09-18 4:50 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-17 3:18 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 21:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-17 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 8:15 ` Ergus
2020-09-16 7:33 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-16 8:55 ` tomas
2020-09-16 9:36 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 9:48 ` tomas
2020-09-16 9:54 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:20 ` tomas
2020-09-16 10:30 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 10:53 ` tomas
2020-09-16 11:09 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 12:40 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 13:04 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:10 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 15:26 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 15:43 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-16 15:45 ` João Távora
2020-09-16 14:20 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-16 16:42 ` tomas
2020-09-16 21:46 ` arthur miller
2020-09-17 19:28 ` Alan Third
2020-09-17 19:47 ` arthur miller
2020-09-16 12:32 ` Arthur Miller
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2020-09-16 14:37 ` Drew Adams
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