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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: chad <yandros@gmail.com>
Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nicola.manca85@gmail.com,
	ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru,
	jackkamm@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28"
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 00:34:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1kI2g6-00088W-2r@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
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  > * Rename undo in simple.el to something descriptive.
  > ** Perhaps undo-sequence or undo-branching?

To rename the command would be an incompatible change that would break
programs.  To define an alias would not be a problem, but we would
need to think of a good one.  I don't see any resemblance between
undo-sequence or undo-branching and what undo does.

Perhaps undo-or-redo would be a meaningful name.

  > * Change the default action of C-z, at least in gui frames, to call the
  > above undo rather than suspend frame.

I don't like making the default bindings for important commands
vary for different types of frames.  On tty frames we NEED suspend-frame.

But we could have a mode to rebind keys which would rebind C-z.

  > ** Also add a binding for C-Z (aka C-S-z) to call redo-only. I'm unsure if
  > this should be bound to something else if the "simple.el undo" method is
  > chosen, or if an alternative binding for C-Z would be better there.

Having C-z be different is ok in a special mode to rebind keys, but
in the default bindings we should not start making shift significant
for control keys.


-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-15  4:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-07 16:45 A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Nicola Manca
2020-09-07 18:08 ` Ergus
     [not found]   ` <86d02x2yg0.fsf@gmail.com>
2020-09-07 19:59     ` about fido-mode Ergus
2020-09-07 20:44       ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-07 21:09         ` Ergus
2020-09-07 21:18           ` andrés ramírez
     [not found]     ` <87mu21wd3f.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <20200907214104.kapyivsh5y62wcl5@Ergus>
     [not found]         ` <865z8p2qay.fsf@gmail.com>
2020-09-08  8:08           ` Ergus
2020-09-08  9:06             ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-08  9:26               ` Ergus
2020-09-08 16:14                 ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-08 16:25                   ` Ergus
2020-09-09  2:44                     ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-07 20:05   ` A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-07 20:34     ` Drew Adams
2020-09-07 20:46       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-07 21:11         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-07 21:15           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-07 21:39             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-07 21:50               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08  2:54             ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-08 11:10               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08  6:18         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-08 11:07           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 14:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 14:54             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-08 15:14               ` Amin Bandali
2020-09-08 15:53                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-08 16:18                   ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-08 16:28                     ` Ergus
2020-09-08 15:27               ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-09-08 15:36                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 15:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 16:13                 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-08 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 18:00                     ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-09  3:44               ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09 19:01                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-09 19:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-09 21:43                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 15:02             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 15:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 21:31                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-10  7:23                   ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-10 14:52                     ` Howard Melman
2020-09-10 15:01                       ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-10 16:43                         ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-09-09  5:03                 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-09  8:35                   ` Ergus
2020-09-09  8:41                     ` tomas
2020-09-09 10:00                       ` Ergus
2020-09-09 10:36                         ` tomas
2020-09-09 13:49                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-09 14:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-09 15:54                             ` tomas
2020-09-10  2:38                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-10 12:10                             ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-11  4:16                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09 18:39                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 12:28                           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-09-09 13:17                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-10  2:40                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-11 10:29                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-11 11:29                     ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-11 11:40                       ` Ergus
2020-09-11 14:53                         ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-11 15:03                           ` Ergus
2020-09-11 15:16                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-11 20:51                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-12 13:02                             ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-12 13:09                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-13 22:13                                 ` chad
2020-09-13 22:44                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-15  4:34                                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2020-09-15  6:54                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-11 12:27                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-11 15:08                         ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-11 20:35                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-11 13:51                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-11 14:32                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-11 14:59                           ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-12 12:55                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-11 13:15                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-11 14:37                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 16:37     ` Custom Et Al: Build-Up The Underlying Platform was " T.V Raman
2020-09-08 20:40       ` Daniel Martín
2020-09-09  3:51         ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09  8:48           ` Tim Cross
2020-09-09 15:53             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-09 16:36               ` Ergus
2020-09-09 16:41                 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-09 17:05                   ` Ergus
2020-09-09 14:32           ` T.V Raman
2020-09-09 18:44             ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-11  4:11             ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-07 18:16 ` Ergus

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