From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:15:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1ca462fa-0f9e-3c18-6386-f43f49388b2f@gmail.com> <20200907180812.5tfylspp7i6vl4o3@Ergus> <94fda087-a61b-356d-4bb4-791907593246@yandex.ru> <24302cf8-5ac8-4abd-83ce-3e33c51a8beb@default> <83k0x4mjsv.fsf@gnu.org> <831rjcmgn8.fsf@gnu.org> <897b82c2-8ec2-60c0-f5c3-5ab98f79fbd8@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3781"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nicola.manca85@gmail.com, arthur.miller@live.com, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 15:16:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGiut-0000r6-3H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:16:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50474 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGius-0006nH-49 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:16:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGitw-0005wf-RN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:15:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37681) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGitv-0007Cv-Uv; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:15:39 -0400 Original-Received: from ams by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGitu-00052l-PS; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:15:39 -0400 In-reply-to: <897b82c2-8ec2-60c0-f5c3-5ab98f79fbd8@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:29:12 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255166 Archived-At: > As I see almost everyone agrees that Emacs has best undo-redo mechanism > that is out there, right? I tend to agree with this. Do you mean 'M-x undo'? As you can see from the recent messages, a lot of users prefer undo-tree or even undo-only+undo-redo rather than the default undo. One shouldn't take the very small amount of users that are on emacs-devel as a metric, there are plenty of users who prefer the default undo behaviour too.