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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Tom Gillespie <tgbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Discoverability (was: Changes for 28)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 22:35:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1kGCQO-0006y2-1t@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+G3_PN2br=KTRvg+L7JNbR=io-0J=j0SQs-=hQAN=KJh+bpww@mail.gmail.com> (message from Tom Gillespie on Tue, 8 Sep 2020 16:17:29 -0700)

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  > I have three concrete proposals distilled from the
  > original thread, followed by a summary of what I see as a common goal
  > that everyone could work toward -- discoverability. Best!
  > Tom


  > Three proposals related to making Emacs functionality more discoverable.
  > 1. Add the Describe sub-menu to the top in addition to having it as a
  >    sub-menu in Help.
  > 2. Have a set minimal configs, created by community experts, that
  >    show off the configuration space of Emacs, including configurations
  >    that would be familiar to users of other popular tools.
  > 3. Maintain the celebration of the diversity of Emacs use cases in
  >    a separate, but easily accessible repository. This could include
  >    things like the starter kits. This point is primarily inspired by
  >    the fact that the default core of Emacs by itself cannot be all
  >    things to all people, but that doesn't mean that we can't display
  >    the fact that when configured accordingly, it can be all things to
  >    all people.

These are very good ideas.  1 and 2 are quite concrete -- I think
people could go off right now and implement them, figuring out the
details along the way.

3 is not quite as concrete, not yet.  But people could propose sorts of
of configurations we might have starter kits for, and that way we could
make it more concrete.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-10  2:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-08 23:17 Discoverability (was: Changes for 28) Tom Gillespie
2020-09-09  2:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-09  4:36   ` Tom Gillespie
2020-09-11  4:07     ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09  8:07   ` tomas
2020-09-10  2:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-10  2:35 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2020-09-10 16:53   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 17:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-09-10 18:30       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 18:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<CA+G3_PN2br=KTRvg+L7JNbR=io-0J=j0SQs-=hQAN=KJh+bpww@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<E1kGCQO-0006y2-1t@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<9ea72b0f-7799-4b17-b165-15cf453a2a62@default>
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2020-09-10 19:05           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 19:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-09-10 20:50               ` Drew Adams

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