From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:44:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1ca462fa-0f9e-3c18-6386-f43f49388b2f@gmail.com> <20200907180812.5tfylspp7i6vl4o3@Ergus> <94fda087-a61b-356d-4bb4-791907593246@yandex.ru> <24302cf8-5ac8-4abd-83ce-3e33c51a8beb@default> <83k0x4mjsv.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3622"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, nicola.manca85@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 05:45:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr3I-0000kc-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 05:45:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49202 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr3G-0000ys-OQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:45:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40828) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr2O-00084g-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:44:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54414) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr2N-0004nX-3I; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:44:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kFr2L-00051K-85; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 23:44:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: (ams@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254835 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I would find it entierly unusable (I've tried it several times) and I > know several people who use Emacs would find the same, so I do not > find it at all an exaggeration. Could you present some specific scenarios in which it works badly for you? That would enable us to go deeper than "I love it" / "I hate it." -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)