From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41570: 26.3; dired chown Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:54:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83ftbksgmn.fsf@gnu.org> <837dtauiyg.fsf@gnu.org> <831rjgraw5.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1rfng1i.fsf@gnu.org> <9ef9006c-ed60-3a30-1ad7-31f38d5f2d99@comcast.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7312"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 41570@debbugs.gnu.org To: "A. Peter Blicher" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 04:55:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTmo-0001ny-Dt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 04:55:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41898 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTmn-0002tN-CW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:55:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39156) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTmg-0002r0-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTmf-00077q-NA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTmf-0001xI-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:55:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 02:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41570 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 41570-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41570.15995336727479 (code B ref 41570); Tue, 08 Sep 2020 02:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41570) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2020 02:54:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51485 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTmB-0001wY-Uc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:54:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57174) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTmA-0001wM-IC for 41570@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:54:31 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTm4-0006yh-VG; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:54:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kFTm3-0001cx-If; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:54:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9ef9006c-ed60-3a30-1ad7-31f38d5f2d99@comcast.net> (blicher@comcast.net) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187501 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > It's already the case in emacs > that trying to do chown in Dired under Windows yields an error message. My suggestion is to adjust the error message so that it clearly explains the situation. Many programs sometimes report an error with an error message that doesn't tell the user what is wrong. It is worth some effort to make our error messages explain clearly to users what the problem is and what caused it. That way, they can tell what to do. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)