From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#42748: 26.3; Should `move-(beginning|end)-of-line' be in the Elisp manual? Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2020 21:59:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7288bc6b-3b02-4c49-9352-0f5da3a933b0@default> <837du97dda.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29293"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 42748@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 09 04:00:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k4ad8-0007Wn-QD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2020 04:00:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49632 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k4ad7-0005xI-R6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 22:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k4ad0-0005xB-NA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 22:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48260) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k4ad0-0007gs-D0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 22:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k4ad0-0005Pq-AG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 22:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 02:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42748 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 42748-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42748.159693839220773 (code B ref 42748); Sun, 09 Aug 2020 02:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 42748) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2020 01:59:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59806 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k4acq-0005Oz-01 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 21:59:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35566) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k4aco-0005Ol-M0 for 42748@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 21:59:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k4acj-0007fU-9J; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 21:59:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k4ach-0006Sf-7L; Sat, 08 Aug 2020 21:59:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837du97dda.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 08 Aug 2020 11:25:53 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:184375 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > (elisp) `Text Lines' documents `(beginning|end)-of-line'. It doesn't > > document `move-(beginning|end)-of-line'. The Emacs manual documents > > the latter and not the former. Is this the best approach, or did the > > Elisp manual perhaps just not get updated when `C-a' and `C-e' were > > changed to use the `move-*' commands? The difference between the keyboard commands and the basic functions is intentional. THe basic functions are useful in Lisp programs; the move- commands are on C-a and C-e but are not worth documenting for Lisp programs to call. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)