From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40676: 28.0.50; gnus locks when reading email Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:24:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sgh3ow91.fsf@gmail.com> <87k0yl768c.fsf@posteo.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13818"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, larsi@gnus.org, rpluim@gmail.com, 40676@debbugs.gnu.org, alex.branham@gmail.com To: philipk@posteo.net (Philip K.) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 31 05:25:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k1LfS-0003TZ-A1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2020 05:25:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59912 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k1LfQ-0000mH-Nc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k1LfK-0000l3-6Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53770) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k1LfJ-0001vG-S5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:25:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k1LfJ-00062r-Oe; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:25:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 03:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40676 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 40676-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40676.159616586623192 (code B ref 40676); Fri, 31 Jul 2020 03:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40676) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jul 2020 03:24:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k1Lej-00061z-O5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:24:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55316) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k1Leh-00061n-Ug for 40676@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:24:24 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k1Leb-0001lG-VO; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k1Leb-0001cX-5H; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 23:24:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k0yl768c.fsf@posteo.net> (philipk@posteo.net) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:183718 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > But it seems there is a problem with using libravatar, right? > Yes, the same attack as above with Gravatar (getting notified when you > open a message), just that a third party can set up their own libravatar > server and get notified when I open their email, instead of one > centralised service. So kind of like tracking bits in HTML messages. I guess this is not a big practical difference. Simply using libravatar instead of gravatar doesn't seem to protect privacy. You've explained that perhaps some redesign could make it protect privacy, but it seems to me that the difference _at present_ is not crucial. Thanks. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)