From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 1e3b0f2: Improve doc strings of project.el Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:51:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87bllfqj82.fsf@warpmail.net> <831rmavsuq.fsf@gnu.org> <83a70wv4mj.fsf@gnu.org> <5542db0c-cc0d-2743-87ae-7728a0cc94bb@yandex.ru> <83ftaf2rj2.fsf@gnu.org> <43a8f8d4-83fb-f012-8e1d-c1a618b0ef59@yandex.ru> <83mu4m0vub.fsf@gnu.org> <44f2f1f4-ae34-f0bf-b153-f33b8ee6069f@yandex.ru> <83mu4fvjh3.fsf@gnu.org> <7c2e93d4-8d86-bbbb-77a0-bf5d73051907@yandex.ru> <83imf2t4w4.fsf@gnu.org> <95fd893e-0da5-4cdc-a3e8-3c22af750aae@yandex.ru> <837dvfs6wg.fsf@gnu.org> <8bc1f381-248f-5cee-c3c6-a29d411a2f74@yandex.ru> <837dvbphs0.fsf@gnu.org> <83365zp78d.fsf@gnu.org> <831rlipmgg.fsf@gnu.org> <83lfjqnsa6.fsf@gnu.org> <294212ed-5a6e-0a7f-e1c2-97e917f1e6e1@yandex.ru> <83eepgomts.fsf@gnu.org> <83a704okmg.fsf@gnu.org> <5d59dd9b-0848-691a-615e-c16d2070b92d@yandex.ru> <837dv8oida.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, philip@warpmail.net, theo@thornhill.no, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 13 04:52:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1juoZz-0008NF-1l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Jul 2020 04:52:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43280 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1juoZy-0003a2-2U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:52:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41642) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1juoZL-000354-9p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:51:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53347) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1juoZJ-0005h8-4X; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1juoZH-0003Ti-2U; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 22:51:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837dv8oida.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:36:33 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252895 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Yes, it is. Apparently you don't understand how cl-generic works. > Please drop the attitude. +1. Dmitry, it looks like you believe Eli was mistaken in what he said about the return value of a certain function. That could be so. We are all human, as far as I know, so we all make mistakes. I have nothing to say about that function's return value; I don't even know the function's name. My point is that there are kind and harsh ways to say that someone made a mistake. "Apparently, you don't understand how this works" is a harsh way. How so? Because it starts with evidence of a narrow mistake and generalizes to accuse a much wider one. That is exaggeration. It is certainly possible to basically understand a topic and get one detail wrong. You can't justify the conclusion that a person doesn't understand the topic, overall, just because of a mistake about a detail. What would be a kind way? "With all due respect, I think you are mistaken about how people use the return value of whatever-it-is." I think that would have served the same purpose in the discussion of this technical issue, while making it easy for others to agree with you if you are right. Would you please make an effort to change your habits that are harsh? -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)