From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Proposal] New EUDC backend for macOS address book Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 23:53:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8da7df5281e91d8a351f97c0837d79b7@condition-alpha.com> <298df6a619aa45393b0ae9250123faef@condition-alpha.com> <866ca4b62cf30015aa28bfb9a2566dff@condition-alpha.com> <6b3f662271587fae0f88a5130e55d02e@condition-alpha.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34479"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org, fitzsim@fitzsim.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alexander Adolf Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 10 05:54:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jtk75-0008qR-Kw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 05:54:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55792 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtk74-0007AS-Ji for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 23:54:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtk6S-0006hF-Da for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 23:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43081) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtk6Q-0005aB-Hs; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 23:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jtk6N-0005j0-GL; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 23:53:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <6b3f662271587fae0f88a5130e55d02e@condition-alpha.com> (message from Alexander Adolf on Thu, 09 Jul 2020 17:12:38 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252806 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Which document is this patch for? It seems to say positive things about various MacOS applications. Are those applications free software? If not, we should not suggesting that people use them. Please see the node References in the GNU Coding Standards for our general policy about references to nonfree programs. Basically, it is ok to mention them only if the reader surely already knows about them, but don't encourage people to use them. For example, it is ok to mention MacOS because the reader surely has already heard of it, and ok to say how to make Emacs work with MacOS (for the sake of users who are already using MacOS and want to use Emacs). But don't say anything that might encourage people to try MacOS if they don't already use it. In particular, don't describe its functionalities or advantages. The same questions apply to any nonfree program that runs on MacOS, but the amswers will be different. Will Mac users who try EUDC generally already know about macOS Contacts? I don't know. If so, you can talk about how to make EUDC work with macOS Contacts -- but please don't say anything about how to use macOS Contacts itself, or what it can do. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)